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Was a complete and utter breakdown of the normal processes that these decisions get made. you have usually a clear complain of command. what emerged in this murky picture of report asking document production is a completely chaotic situation where you had civilians, you know, political figures like kash patel, installed as chief of staff over at pentagon and mark meadows kind of ad libbing it over the course of the day at the same time that the united states' capitol, the heart of american democracy, is under assault for hours and we are all watching on television and nothing is happening. wha...

Extraordinary reporting from luke and his colleagues, the reporters -- i have asked jonathan swan, reporters a the "washington post" who was functioning as the country's commander in chief. can't get a clear answer. whether it was trump or pence who called the national guard. now we know from this report the white house chief of staff was talking to kash patel, the pentagon chief of staff, quote, non-stop on january 6th. what do you think they were talking about? >> well, nicolle, when you have document production like this one of the things you look at is how much does it interact with some o...

The committee says mr trump's former top white house aide is uniquely situated to provide key information. joining us now from washington dc is hugo lowell, he's the guardian's reporter over there and he's been following the story. great to have you on the programme. just to start by asking you, meadows will be recommended for prosecution, how did it come to this, took us through the background of this case. the january six committee targeted mark meadows from the outset of their investigation. one of the first of these is issued including document production at a deposition behind closed door...

Exceptionally interesting document production from mark meadows. she at the beginning of the week -- i think it was monday -- and chairman thompson did as well, talked about how there will be public hearings. i remember hearing that and thinking if there is one thing that triggers the impeached expresident, it is row block coverage. these are only trump act lights, trump sycophants, trump pardoned people and trump staffers. he cannot surprise himself from these people. >>ert at that. and you can cannot overstate the importance of liz cheney, the importance he brings to this committee. she as a...

Chair of the committee telling us this this afternoon. we have received exceptionally interesting and important documents from a number of witnesses, including mark meadows. he's tornadoed over many texts from his private cell phone from six. then she goes to what we said at the top, do not be misled. this is what we understand a letter from chairman penny thompson to mr. meadows' attorney, a november 7, 2020 email discussing the appointment of alternate legislators. another email providing options for january 6th that was to be provided on the hill. and among others, a january 5th 2021 email ...