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That didn't yield anything. interesting nugget to me they said there were people under investigation who admitted they had told their spouses about the dobbs decision, their partners about the dobbs decision including the vote count well in advance of any of it being public. there were gaps there. everybody wasn't playing by the rules even though we don't know who crossed the line. >> bill: you raise a great point. 97 employees interviewed, over 126 formal interviews. would it have been appropriate or maybe even necessary to interview the spouses of those who confessed to that admission? >> we...

Signed a document saying, okay, now we've handed over everything that you wanted. turned out the national archives said, wait, no, no, no, there's still stuff missing, and then they tried once again. by the way, those lawyers signed a document saying there's nothing left. and that might have been it except that somebody within the trump circle, locus dropped the dime and said there's still documents that are hanging around in the basement of mar-a-lago that need to be safeguarded and preserved. howard: that's what media reports say. will, you took a little flak for saying it didn't matter if t...

Cause relating to three federal laws between violation of the espionage act, violations they don't depend upon material being declassified, versus declassified. by the way, prior to this search, according to the times in june. trump's lawyer had signed a document saying that they had already returned all of the boxes of classified documents at mar-a-lago. democratic senator amy klobuchar questioned how those boxes were able to make it out of the white house in the first place. >> one of the statues they used in the search warrant was the espionage act. another one was that you cannot destroy f...

Was up to no good. you're saying if there's anything untort in the way they presented the document saying give us what we need. we need surveillance and we need it quick. >> we need that and i've used it many times if we denigrate the process that allows the court to make the decision. it hurts everybody. it will be very circumspect on what the bureau tries to bring to them and we need to know the fact. if it was done the people need to be severely judged on what they did. if they didn't do it we need to know that too. >> martha: let's put up on the screen the changes in personnel at the doj a...

Wrong whatsoever. they turned over the documents they feel they need to. if there's an extensive amount of documents they're being asked to turn over, they'll get them. let the investigation go. don't let the press corp investigate. and one more step, whether the trump administration knew it. if the trump administration had thought or had suspected that there was some funny business going on between flynn and the russians, he never would have been tapped. >> melissa: let me push back on that once then we'll move along. if it is true that he was paid $535,000 by some turkish interest, that he d...