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What's classified or important or the level just by looking at it. you can see something sensational, and that can be something openly available. and you can see the most mundane sentence, and it's indicative of some intention or action, so this idea that anyone can just casually assume what is really classified is just false, and the same thing i would say goes for the president. i don't think he acquired that appreciation. >> you've said a bunch of really important things. i want to try to impact them. not understanding the craft, what he said publicly went beyond not understanding the craft...

It could go so much faster, if people would just cop to the fact that, yes, this exists, yes, we can do something about it, and yes, i understand that you're equal to me. those three things. yes, it exists, yes, we can do something about it, and, yes, you are my equal, and thus want to be treated as such. i want you to treat me the way you want to be treated. we do those three things, we would be fine. >> do you have a sense of what you've sort of done with this film? >> well, i think we all -- the director and barbara broccoli, and michael, we all know, we know what we wanted to do, and we fe...

How to talk on tvp. and -- tv. and he's a good communicator, you know, but i knew because i watched people say, you know, he knows how to run companies, and he knows how to make money, and he knows how to make us better, and you know, he was aspirational. >> to them. >> for them, yeah. >> and i think that when people believe that you can fly, when you get people to believe that you are part of the second coming, people are desperate. he's not god. he hasn't walked on any water. he got sick like everybody else. because of his job, hechs given -- he was given a way to get well quicker.

Child, don't act normal. you have to accommodate other people's ugliness, and i think for them to put it in the movie is so important, for people to understand how you broke people's spirit to where they had to treat their kids a certain way to accommodate being treated in an inhumane way. that is a very very strong and awesome burden that people had to carry. but they did, and mamie represented that. >> keith, what do you want people to take from the experience of watching this film? >> well, i would like for people who go out to see this film to understand that this is not just a movie. it's...

"till", and know that you could be next. this could be your life. is that what you really want? >> the film is glorious in its grace and in its ability to just cut through. what is it about, you know, we talk about the news every day for our day jobs. why can't we cut through the way this beautiful film can? >> we had one story to tell, and that's what we're telling. you know, journalists have lots of stories they have to tell. talking heads don't have any of those. they can talk about whatever, and put any spin they want to on it. so, you know, we as a nation have to say, okay, you know what,...