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America. its average americans, for some it's a bucket list issue, but traveling to new york is a fabulous, fun thing to do. it's their audience and it seems to me, some people who were there who were in hamilton, and the tickets are not cheap. if we are asking americans to spend a lot of money to see them perform and i love performers, i think they're terrific, but -- everybody's got a right to be political, but doesn't this harm, considering the nature of what we've been experiencing in america, doesn'tt this harm -- beyond rosie o'donnell, this kind of h activism, doesn't it harm both their...

We must be fully aware of our own history. i read a statement from the african union was really interesting. slaves built america but we can't accept refugees? >> tucker: you claim to be of journalist, maybe you can explain -- since you are in the explaining business -- >> i actually won part of a pulitzer so i actually am a journalist. >> tucker: tell me why, because the united states had slavery, a grave sin, doesn'tt have the right to say no to refugees? unpack that. >> i absolutely agree with you that a country has a right to define and defend its borders. why are people here? that was for...