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With that cooperation, with substantial assistance, he should have been an easy probation sentence. so when the judge intimated in not too subtle words he probably not get a probation sentence, he would be incarcerated, that was a clear signal something abnormal was going on. most similarly situated defendants will get a straight probation sentence. >> frank, obviously, you've had experience with counterintelligence investigations, in particular which i assume a, they're the most difficult and they do get into this, these very tricky situations. have you seen anything like this, though, where ...

About them -- >> earlier they said those conversations stopped in january 2016. >> the date -- until you actually sit down and answer the questions and you go back and look at the papers and the -- you're not going to know what happened. >> did giuliani make a mistake there or did he indicate that, in fact, like the president knew more about this until a later date because before we'd not known this happened all the way up to the election. >> you never know with giuliani but my read is he knew what he was saying. november 2016, which is news, by the way. and this goes to the lies shawna was ta...

Passed -- there are certain things that probably needed to be done to the law. there are still things that need to be done. they didn't have the votes and no one wanted to make a deal on that until they tried to help people. you had republicans trying to repeal and replace for the last two years. and they didn't have a good enough replacement to get enough votes to even peel off a couple of democratic votes to get that through. so i don't know how, especially, if we have 2020 coming up, an election cycle, you are going to get these disparate parts to come together to do something that's incred...

Thought just if i had my own estimate of it, wisconsin and michigan, were two states that i thought the russians probably had a heavy impact in. overall, it's very hafrd to tak away the comey letter in that last week and dismiss it from the russian social media influence effort. but i can also say there were certain narratives that were completely driven by the russians. the hacking of the d.c., that led to the sort of narrative bernie sanders got a raw deal was entirely driven by them. without the russian play, you don't have that. and when you look at the social media manipulation, it was a ...

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