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Democratic legislature, where a majority in both houses are democrats, i am unaware of them being criticized for it or them having their supporters feel uncomfortable with it. >> you know what i'm trying to get at. here there is a sort of feeling that it is insensitive, but you clearly don't agree? >> to me, it is the sort of feeling that it is a nit, that it is not significant, that is not -- trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddly. >> doesn't amount to diddly. that's what the governor said. in a moment, we will talk with historian douglas brinkley. last week ...

Not -- trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to didly. >> doesn't amount to didly, that is what the governor said n a moment, we will talk with historian douglas bankly. last week on 360, roland martin got into a sparring match with the sons of confederate veterans, group that lobbied the state of virginia to celebrate the con fed ras city for the month. here is some of that conversation. >> it was an idiotic mistake for him to sit here and proclaim. this the bottom line is the confederacy was based on this issue of slavery. and so, it was hurtful, it was degrading, it...

Mcdonnell, designated april confederate month, something his two democratic predecessors had refrained from doing. this caused quite a stir, particularly because the governor did not even mention slavery in this proclamation. was that a mistake? >> they should talk about democratic legislature, which has -- does exactly the same thing in mississippi for years. and as far as i know, the democratic legislature, where a majority in both houses are democrats, i am unaware of them being criticized for it or them having their supporters feel uncomfortable with it. >> you know what i'm trying to get ...

The governor did not even mention slavery in this proclamation. was that a mistake? >> well, i don't think so. i don't know what you would say about slavery, but anybody thinks you have to explain to people that slavery's a bad thing, i think goes without saying. to me it's the sort of feeling that it's a nit. it is not significant, that it's not a -- it's trying to make a big deal out of something that doesn't amount to diddley. >> mississippi governor exlobbyist and presumed 2012 presidential contender haley barbour this weekend one-upping for virginia bob mcdonnell's whole slavery's no big ...

You can go to a state facility like stone mountain that have civil war generals on it and learn about it, but at stone mountain, you can either learn about the civil war or you can hold a hate rally there. the confederate flag has become a symbol of not just the civil war battles, but of jim crow's segregation in the deep south, of racism. and so there has to be some sensitivity to our public officials, like governor hayley barbour, governor mcdonnell, to -- when you just embrace the raw confederacy in this kind of fashion, it's going to anger people, it doesn't do anybody in this country any ...