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To get the west's attention. >> what do you make of that claim, general? >> well, i mean, if they want to get the world's attention, not in particularly a positive way, they've accomplished that in great measure. however, they have really, really boxed themselves in an autocratic, authoritarian, almost 1930's type of brinksmanship that does not -- that doesn't bode well for them one way or the other. again, they have a chance now to back off. the world would breathe a sigh of relief. they can say they made their point, and there can be negotiations, but the west has stayed even with our warts ...

Pfifer. ambassador, i am wondering what you make of -- listening to our correspondent matthew chance and others, what do you make of the latest attacks, where the invasion stands at this hour? >> yeah. anderson, it's -- it's -- it's hard to figure out exactly what is going on. you are trying to track it from social media and really fragmentary reports. but one was to come in very quickly and destroy as much of the military as they could and leave which would be consistent with what mr. putin said yesterday about not wanting to occupy the country. but the other one which i think is now more lik...

Warfare, is an attack on the u.s. >> well, that's true. but i think he's talked himself into believing he can get away with this, and he thinks we won't react -- we, the west, won't react. now, putin is not getting much pushback as we've seen for these meetings he's been conducting. he doesn't have anybody telling him what he's doing is dumb or not the smart thing to do. so he's basically surrounded, as we've seen, by sycophants that are yes-men and are not going to push back. so he's not getting any bad news, particularly from his intelligence services, and that doesn't bode well for him or f...

Operating on the internet and many other parts of the world. absolutely. which is why even though i say it gives russian ammunition, they didn't really need it, for example they've already blocked facebook. at the russians decided, they didn't try to block social media committee have a long tradition of propaganda, they can understand that it could be harvested. so the theyjust used it. now, increasingly, they go to their own sovereign internet, going down the chinese model, which doesn't bode very well. all these things now blocking facebook, instagram, this is the slow process of russia beco...

In moscow writing today's ft saying in 2019 putin approved a sovereign internet law instructing all service providers to channel traffic through filters controlled by the kremlin�*s digital sensor. presumably this is the problem, even where companies are not disconnected or not blocked, even operating on the internet in russia is different from operating on the internet and many other parts of the world. absolutely. which is why even though i say it gives russian ammunition, they didn't really need it, for example they've already blocked facebook. look, in the beginning, the russians decided...