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And i think this is almost like a disease in america. but, nobody is treating it, juan. because the mainstream media sympathizes with the secularists. they don't want -- you know, you have got to be -- you can't even tell kids they can have a good time on easter. you can't even tell them that now. >> that's ridiculous. it's just nuts. i know jo sympathize with it i don't know who does even in my church this weekend. the kids had a retreat where they took them to a greek orthodox church. a synagogue and a mosque so the kids could have the experience of learning about other faith traditions. i m...

About fro found change in many of the radicals back then have become authority figures today especially in the media now we have a new antiauthority movement, and it has been created by the grievance industry which president obama and the democratic party very effectively to assume and maintain power. the grievance industry basically says that america is not a fair nation, that the deck is stacked against minorities, women, the poor, gays, atheists, muslims, you name it. and the bad guys are white males, the republican party, and anybody who doesn't buy into the grievance industry. the politic...

Other side does, well, if you don't fire your ceo, okay, eich, then we are not going to use your services. that's why he got fired. what about the traditional people going you know, you fired the guy and you were wrong for doing it, you violated right he has in america so we are north going to use your service. we are not going to do it. doesn't that have to happen to balance stuff out here? >> just to set the record straight so you don't get criticized. he didn't get fired. >> oh, come on, he resigned. would you want him to resign a big buck job like that? come on. >> let me finish. technical...

Of increase in health care to its lowest point in 50 years. it's helping to reduce the increase in medicaid. quality is increasing while cost is coming down. seniors have now saved $10 billion for prescription drugs because of the law. and on top of that the congressional budget office says it's going to reduce the deficit by $1.7 trillion over the next 20 years. you combine all those things, plus ending discrimination against women when it comes to premiums, the law is hitting a lot of its marks, all in the first year. enrollment is one piece of that. so this is going to be a multiyear effort...

Chuck. >> will somebody pay it? >> oh, absolute -- >> you do believe people will pay the penalty? >> absolutely. >> you have a lot of caveats. >> he's the simplest way to think about it, chuck. anyone who can afford insurance who doesn't buy insurance will pay the penalty. >> and what's your estimate? >> it's hard -- we will have to see when we get to the end of the day today and the next couple of days when we have cleanup, what the final numbers are. this is a moving target. one thing, chuck, a lot of people who watch your show already have insurance. >> yeah. >> the thing i would just ask i...