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Yesterday roy blunt, who is a member of the senate intelligence committee, who is a member of the republican leadership in the senate was asked by dana bash whether the president did anything wrong, and he tied it to obama. >> did he make a mistake? >> do presidents make mistakes? i don't know if this call was a mistake, but there have been plenty of mistakes made by both president obama and president trump regarding ukraine. >> why is it so hard for republicans to even say the president did anything wrong here? >> because they're cowards and they're afraid of the president's power and they're...

Republicans are not in a worse position when it comes to this vote. he's going to make it at palatable as possible to say, we couldn't connect the dots. never mind we couldn't connect the dots because the white house won't provide the documents or witnesses who are at the center of this mess. we couldn't connect the dots so we have no choice but to not convict the president. this was all a sham and let's move ahead to 2020. >> what was astonishing to me was when the president said you can't say the call wasn't bad, but it doesn't call for impeachment. the president said, stop saying that, say ...

Documents from the administration. they talk about pressure to ukraine announcing investigations. that's one area he wants information about. also withholding a white house meeting from president zelensky, which was considered a quid pro quo in order to freeze military aid for ukraine. the white house blocked it, they chose not to go to court to get this information, but we're seeing more and more information come out that the democrats heard on moving impeachment quickly through the house instead of going to court. >> one of the details does come from omb. omb is repeatedly putting taer hol -...

You have to defend me, and if not, i can go to your state, i can punish you in a whole myriad of ways, these people get on line and follow him quickly. >> mitt romney was like that. he said what was said in the call was disturbing and he didn't approve of it, and right away we saw conservatives go after mitt romney in terms of ad. so the president and his allies laid down a marker early and said if you say something that's wrong, you're going to have repercussions. >> that was bad news for these people up for reelection. will they be able to break ranks with the president or are they concerned...

Crimes case. rudy giuliani, here is the central player in the ukraine scandal, and he's not concerned at all about the optics of being close to the president in the middle of all this. >> no, i think there are plenty of republicans around the president who are looking at this ask cringing and wishing rudy giuliani wasn't hanging around mar-a-lago right now, but so far president trump has not really thrown him under the bus. he's made a couple moves in that direction, and at the end of the day it's always the people around the president who are very concerned about rudy giuliani's behavior and ...