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He's got all those facts and figures. >> gerald, are you that bad? are you that bad a wonk where you actually do go into these numbers? i think i disagree with you. this is "hardball." let's have a fight. i like the idea of mass transportation. you've reduced it to per seat, per dollar and you say the -- what do you call it, the cost benefit doesn't work out for you when it comes to mass transit. your thinking on that? >> well, i mean, the math just doesn't work, chris. i mean, unless you have super high densities in areas, and we don't have a lot of high density in the south. >> you don't hav...

Education sh education should be able to join the middle class. >> do you trust the governor. >> i trust them to make -- >> i watch baltimore, ferguson, i watch a president that has rushed to judgment and been wrong on high profile race cases. and i'm wondering why would he involve himself? >> there's this jump to want to be a victim. not just the president, but the left. they're trying to redefine our culture. a culture of division. >> i was offended by "the washington post" saying as an indian american, that you had abandoned the indian american community. something to that effect. i felt th...

Kids. if they work hard get a great education sh education should be able to join the middle class. >> do you trust the governor. >> i trust them to make -- >> i watch baltimore, ferguson, i watch a president that has rushed to judgment and been wrong on high profile race cases. and i'm wondering why would he involve himself? >> there's this jump to want to be a victim. not just the president, but the left. they're trying to redefine our culture. a culture of division. >> i was offended by "the washington post" saying as an indian american, that you had abandoned the indian american community....

Kids. if they work hard get a great education sh education should be able to join the middle class. >> do you trust the governor. >> i trust them to make -- >> i watch baltimore, ferguson, i watch a president that has rushed to judgment and been wrong on high profile race cases. and i'm wondering why would he involve himself? >> there's this jump to want to be a victim. not just the president, but the left. they're trying to redefine our culture. a culture of division. >> i was offended by "the washington post" saying as an indian american, that you had abandoned the indian american community....

>> i do not understand the phrase sick of mob movies. that doesn't compute with me. >> over my head. >> right. it is so great, though, to see johnny depp, who is a great actor, actually doing that as opposed to, you know, kind of -- >> as opposed to being a pirate. >> running around as tonto in that awful lone ranger remake. >> that was so bad. and it's true, johnny depp does not have blue eyes, which we just saw in -- he's got the blue eye lenses on for this. and he's actually kind of stepping in the shadow of jack nicholson here of who in "the departed" played the fictional version of whitey...