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Numbers. >> ben, one of the things that folks in chicago and at the white house say is look, there is action. they got transportation money here that they think will affect 2.8 million jobs. does that cut any ice? >> i think where there has been some federal spending, obama has tried to say he would like a lot more stimulus spending. they have introduced legislation that will go nowhere for the last six months to a year, kind of calling for some form of new federal spending. i think that message, people don't really like that message of the government should spent more money which is really th...

The answer is to bring down the price of health care. the more government intervention, the higher the price -- >> greta: all right. all right. >> let anyone buy any health insurance policy they want -- >> greta: but -- >> buy it with tax-free money. have true medical malpractice reform. >> greta: but somebody -- >> that doesn't cost -- >> greta: is it going to cost the hospitals and the doctors? i am trying to figure out who is paying for it. >> somebody is going to be paying. the problem is every time the federal government gets involved, the costs skyrocket and it will be far more expensive...

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