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Evidence and not on political ideology. and that's what make the president's comments so dangerous. he believes it's okay to use the incredible coerce i've power of the federal government to go after political enemies. it's wrong and it's also, by the way, obstruction of justice. >> the argument on the other side are these are the whalings of a fundamentally impotent individual. that were he actually directly ordering the department of justice to do this, that would be one thing, but he's just kind of whining about it on twitter the way that anyone watching fox news might. and, therefore, it's...

Manning, edward snowden, who have decided that they've seen information inside an intelligence agency that has to be shared with the public. and it's really alarming some of the intelligence officials i'm speaking to. >> ken, what strikes me, this doesn't cross the normal party lines. i was struck by john kerry calling edward snowden a traitor, because edward snowden released information that undermined a lot of diplomat and intelligence operations during the obama administration. we now have, obviously, president trump, in office talking a whole lot about prosecuting leaks like this. but it d...

Adversely impacted by this, and might actually do something bad and try to harm the president because they see a public figure endorsing such nefarious behavior? if we get a change in law, this might stop effects of actions like this. >> jon: the law says you cannot inflict bodily harm upon officials like the president, holding up a fake severed head doesn't cross that threshold? >> it doesn't because you have to look at the law. we all know kathy griffin is outrageous. she put yourself out there. we know she has caused a lot of controversy and we have to look at her as a person and the public...

You can expect volatility between now and the inauguration. every time donald trump comes up with a policy. everybody looks at it and determines which companies will do well and which will suffer. >> trump's transition website now a .gov address. you look at the bio and it talks about his trump properties around the world, his hotel, golf courses. that's not something we necessarily saw back when president obama first took office. his bio didn't mention the books. >> yeah. >> do you see conflict of interest concerns in this? >> it talks about the world renowned 5th avenue sky scraper. it sound...

>> in this noisy, hostile environment, our producer spotted an older, white-haired man serenely walking the tier, showing no fear for his safety. >> so, what's new? are you doing all right? >> how are you doing? >> good. i'm a holy cross priest from south bend, indiana, and notre dame. and i come out here and just sort of talk to the men, i mean, if they want to talk to me. some are catholic, some are not. i'm retired and delighted to do it. >> even though 79-year-old father thomas mcnally is required by the prison to wear a stab-resistant vest, the thought of being attacked doesn't cross his ...