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Huge risk for them and the taxpayer, and this ain't no movie. what's happening right now in is the president going on a full frontal person r. assault to say we have turn this thing around, it's getting better in what do you say? >> the president wants to make clear it's more than a web site, and i would say he's right. it's more than a web site. what a lot of people are realizing is that the premiums they're facing and the deductibles they're facing are so high that this insurance doesn't make sense for them. >> you know, chris, i always argued, people getting caught up in the web site and i ...

Boy, i'm going to go to his house, strip naked, and walk in with a 12-pack of beer. this was just something you thunk up today? >> no, sir. i talked to him about it online. >> do you see how this looks, john? >> i'm sorry. >> just let me see the driver's license. >> i'm sorry. >> sorry doesn't cut it. what would have happened -- what would have happened, john, if i wasn't here? >> i probably would have chickened out, sir. >> chickened out? do you see why that is hard for me to believe? >> i do, sir. but it's the truth. >> you say to him, are you straight, bi or gay? he says gay. i just don't t...

>> i tried to open it. i worked on it for two hours. i cannot open it. i said, you see, i cannot open it. this thing doesn't cut. i get you a saw. >> this had to get done and it had to get done by daylight. i said, i'll go get you a saw. i went to walmart at 3:00 in the morning to buy a saw to saw open caylee anthony's skull because the medical examiner didn't do it. as i'm walking around, people are recognizing me, i'm sure somebody had to be scratching their heads on that one. and then i remember getting up to the cash register and every tabloid newspaper had caylee and casey right there and...

>> other members of the defense had issues as well. attorney dorothy sims knows what it's like to feel fear. wondering if the next person she meets is going to kill her. during her time serving as co-counsel for the casey anthony defense team, sims' office was inundated with hate mail, phone calls, and death threats. >> this isn't all of the mail i received. this just is tasting, a flavor. i received birthday cards on caylee's birth with personalized messages for the defense team. we were online told that we are going to rot in hell. karma's a bitch, you'll get yours, that kind of thing. actua...

What do you think of that argument? >> chris, how you doing? my problem with that is that's a false choice. i care a lot about those 200 people and 30 kids who have cancer. but i also care about the 48 million people who get food-borne illness every year and the 3,000 who die. i'm concerned about the fact that we're in flu season and we aren't tracking the flu like we ought to. i'm concerned about the fact that hospitals aren't being adequately regulated, and, you know, we have 100,000 people who die each and every year because of medical errors. we've got a lot of the issues here we have to d...