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Symbolism to protect us against a danger that really doesn't exist, right? illegal immigration is down. the number of people coming through that border is not higher than the number of people who fly in here and overstay their visas, in other words, other illegal immigrants as well. i think the majority of the country understands that, but what i think the democrats understand is that they have nothing to lose by giving in right now. they understand that the country is behind them. >> i'm sorry, you mean they have nothing to lose by not giving in? >> that's right. they understand that. one of ...

It. this is the man that said if i shoot somebody in the middle of the street on fifth avenue, they would still vote for me. but to stand up today and said, by the way, i can do this with an emergency act, i'm not going to do it, even though they're terrorists, the boogieman is coming. nobody's seen him but me, but the boogieman is coming. i could do an emergency act, but i'm not going to do it. and 800,000 workers, federal workers, furloughed or getting late pay. they really want this because they understand getting the boogieman who doesn't exist is more important than them being able to pay...

Black community. is this something that ellen may have a blind spot or didn't take into account or doesn't have that experience? >> no. i think this is an american problem. on some level, this isn't a kevin hart problem. the notion that homophobia or racism doesn't exist, is ludicrous. we're reflections of problems that people admit exist. >> before that, there's homophobia in every group, right? specifically, because he's talking about his black son and he says, i have an issue with that as a black man, what have you. that's how we're talking about it in these terms. i'm going to say this and...

Would still vote for me. but to stand up today and say, by the way, i can do this with an emergency act, i'm not going to do it even though there are terrorists, the boogie man is coming, nobody has seen him but me, the boogie man is coming and i could do an emergency act but i'm not going to do it, and 800,000 workers furloughed or getting late pay, they really want it because they understand getting the boogie man that doesn't exist is more important than them being able to pay their bills. i mean the arrogance of someone to say that and then say, and i may do it for a year by the way, but i...

An emergency act, i'm not going to do it, even though they're terrorists. the boogieman is coming. nobody has seen him but me, but the boogieman is coming. i can do an emergency act but i'm not going to do it. and 800,000 federal workers furloughed or getting late pay, they really want this because they understand getting the boogieman who doesn't exist is more important than them being able to pay their bills. i mean, the arrogance of someone to say that and then say -- and i may do it for a year, by the way, but i don't have to, because i could do the emergency act, but i'm going to make you...