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Freedom means the ability to say two plus two equals four. what i'm getting at is the more we permit hacking, particularly hacking that -- of disinformation, the less we have reliance on a common set of facts. once you begin to lose that, norms begin to fall in a terribly quick and decisive way. >> i want to pivot to north carolina. we have been talking about it. it is perfectly legal what is happening in north carolina. but it doesn't feel in the spirit of ending an election. the north carolina legislature have a veto-proof majority. they can pass laws and the governor can veto it no matter w...

About unintended consequences up until the moment where it stops him from taking action. we had the fall of aleppo and we had the hacking of the american election system. on both instances, the president said, we were so worried about something going wrong if we intervened. i think what the american public in this election said we want more action. >> in 1984, the hero said, freedom means the ability to say two plus two equals four. what i'm getting at is the more we permit hacking, particularly hacking that -- of disinformation, the less we have reliance on a common set of facts. once you beg...

Party there. fox news had their christmas party there. that doesn't feel a little hanky? >> if you don't believe in your own product enough to partake of it, why would you expect other people to do it? i think the voters -- one of the reasons donald trump won the election is because the voters thought he was a real businessman with a real job outside the phony world of politics. the voters were very comfortable with the fact -- >> hold on, outside the phony world of what -- >> politics. the voters were very comfortable. one of the reasons they chose him is because he had a real career. i think...

Is that off base or more? >> your two questions are related when talking about his cabinet being white, male and older as well. so far, there's a big chunk of america that doesn't feel reflected in the trump administration and i think what these actors were doing is saying, hey, there are a lot of people out there that are scared. there are a lot of non-whites in this country right now that are worried about the direction of the trump administration and are desperately trying to get through to trump and pence and say, you know, give us a sign that some of the worst things you said in the campa...

Much. >> thank you very much. >> everybody against the trial lawyers until they need one. show me another tweet. @smerconish, if you think he'll change, you should enroll in trump university. very funny. thank you, jeff. one thing if the president-elect wants to go out for a steak dinner and doesn't feel obligated but quite another when he meets with a foreign head of state. we'll talk trump's treatment of the fourth estate when we come back and keep the tweets coming. is the media complicit saying there is real fear out there. disappointed is not fear. words matter. i keep saying, conduct mat...