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Suffering. tammy: that's the plan tore putin to have people begin to consider ways worth it. how much more death and destruction. these horrible attacks are meant to say, do you want three more months of this? at the same time there seem to be leaks of what putin might want as an exit ramp. that would be recognizing crimea as russia. and the breakaway republics as russia, no longer disputed. either a standing army but it would be neutral for ukraine, a guarantee never to join nato, et cetera. i think what the west has to work on is to give putin taken offramp so he doesn't feel that his own le...

Let's bring in barbara starr. not only did admiral kirby say they don't support this transfer. he said transferring these mig 29 little increase capabilities at high risk. doesn't think fighter jets is what ta ukrainians need now any way. >> that appears to be the military analysis this afternoon. one that ukraine still has several squadrons of jets available to it. not clear how much they are able to fly in this contested environment they operate in with the russians but they have the air power and the u.s. doesn't feel that ukraine is going to get a significant advance in its military capabi...

I want to bring in now former defense adviser to ukraine colonel liam collins as well as major john spencer, author of "connected soldiers: life, leadership and social connections in modern war." i'm happy to have both of you gentlemen on. thank you for joining us. colonel collins, we've talked about how skeptical the u.s. and the west are about this russian announcement. but let's look at what it actually means if russian forces do scale back near kyiv. you know the ukrainian forces well. what would this mean for their ability to defend their country? >> yeah, i mean, first i'd say right, it'...

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Some basic food for your family. but you have to risk your life. you never know when the russians will attack and will open fire. they're doing that specifically for people trying to get humanitarian aid and relief. and that just is terrifying, the very fact that they're doing that. >> inna, before i ask you my next question, do you feel stuck there because -- listen, i know you're a member of parliament and you want to stay. and i'm just wondering how you're feeling and how many people feel because if there's not a corridor, right? for humanitarian aid and for people to get out. do you feel t...