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Interesting. but this is a real tense and slightly angry meeting. while they're not yelling at each other, they are warning and threatening each other in legalese. in one, look, you're messing with the president's work. literally he said you're screwing with the president of the united states. and in the other, bob mueller says, look, if you don't want to have him sit down, we can always subpoena him. for both sides, by the way, joe and mika, i think that this is a difficult negative because if this interview doesn't go forward and if there is a subpoena, both sides lose in a way. the presiden...

>> there's no margin of error for any nomination at this point. we saw how hard it was to get mike pompeo through. he's served in congress. he was director of the cia. there are issues his critics have with him but he clearly is a person who had great credentials and run a major agency of the government. dr. jackson has twhnot. he has these additional issues to confront workplace conduct. whether it's a hostile workplace and whether he was too fwree re passing out medication and potentially drinking on the job. things like that are the kinds of things that make it hard to get a nomination thro...

Tomorrow. he's giving the white house an opportunity to withdraw that nomination quietly, if they could, so the committee does not have to expose embarrassing information about this well liked doctor. this is a classic case where the vetting was not done before the nomination went up. >> that does appear to be the case. you talk about the idea this might be embarrassing for dr. jackson. i've talked to a number of democratic senator who is might not be favorably disposed toward dr. jackson fwh first place who don't want to talk about the allegations against him for that reason. think feel like ...

Information about dr. jackson's tenure there. his background, work environment there. the kind of information you think someone at the white house would have handy had a more traditional long form vetting has been done. take a listen. >> i'm doing my job. any story other than what i've said is made up. some of the stories have been. >> that is very signal. they are jointly holding this nomination. >> that's right. had the nomination been going forward, this is a situation you would see them together say they

Relationship with dr. jackson. it was an unusual nomination to begin with. you don't see the president nominate his own physician to a cabinet position like this. it does suggest a lack of vetting. it makes you question the white house chief of staff organization. his ability to put a more orderly structure on this white house. if it doesn't go through, you know it's going to leave the president once again scrambling to find somebody he can trust to put in that position. you see with these personnel choices just moving people around inside the tent than bringing people from outside. it's such ...