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♪ >> the truth is more important now than ever and that's going to play into both the dimensions of this debate and the outcome. you've long held that when i was trying to figure out how will i do this, how women i ill i do tu said basically on the show, in the end they'll lie about what they did. >> the problem they'll have, though the president just discovered this is complicated and really hard to understand, people will understand when the insurance policies they buy for, let's say, a premium that doesn't go up that much in cost, it's not going up in cost because the benefits have been c...

To play into both the dimensions of this debate and the outcome. you've long held that when i was trying to figure out how will i do this, how will i do this, you said basically on the show, in the end they'll lie about what they did. >> the problem they'll have, though the president just discovered this is complicated and really hard to understand, people will understand when the insurance policies they buy for, let's say, a premium that doesn't go up that much in cost, it's not going up in cost because the benefits have been cut back. the deductibles have been raised. people will get that. t...

Let me ask you a question. i don't get lindsey graham. i don't get him. he says, we don't either. he's literally at zero. you see it. and he keeps talking. he gets so much television. he's on television all the time and he doesn't go up. he's at zero, folks. his ideas are so bad, i'm more militaristic than him but i know how to win. he just wants to attack everything. he always sits with john mccain. it's like they're the bobsy twins. did you ever notice? some time i want to see him by himself. he's always sitting with john mccain, who's fine. i'm not knocking it. but you've got to know what t...

He says, we don't either. he's literally at zero. you see it. and he keeps talking. he gets so much television. he's on television all the time and he doesn't go up. he's at zero, folks. his ideas are so bad, i'm more militaristic than him but i know how to win. he just wants to attack everything. he always sits with john mccain. it's like they're the bobsy twins. did you ever notice? some time i want to see him by himself. he's always sitting with john mccain, who's fine. i'm not knocking it. but you've got to know what to do. now me, i was against the war in iraq. i have a great temperament....

Person. most mostly importantly, there's data that shows crime doesn't go up. when 30,000 people were let out in 2011, guess what, crime went down. >> do you not agree there isn't a prison overcrowding problem? >> i think there's an overcrowding problem but i also think part of the problem is we let them -- put people in and we let them out so quickly that it doesn't seem like it's a real place for people to actually go when they do commit crimes. i'll give you an example. it's not actually funny, mark. if you talk to somebody who's been addicted to drug or watch a kid die from an o.d., it's n...