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>> well, i think what he's showing is that as he was able to take that in, he said that he did not agree with that. but i think what we've got to make sure that we are talking about is that some of the statements that have been made by the squad -- >> we'll talk about the squad in a second. but just to be clear, he said i started talking very quickly. we can play it again. 13 seconds passed. he let it go. >> and if you go back into the 2016 campaign during the "lock' er up" chants, they were actually clapping. >> so that was okay but this isn't? >> and we're really focusing on a three-word ral...

That was a townhall meeting one on one with -- >> he has the only microphone in the place, marc. >> and the person who was talking directly to him rather than a chant that is being started by 10,000 people that's happening organically. it's much different when you're talking one on one to be able to disagree something rather than in an arena with 10,000 people. >> i think we would agree if the president said let's stop that for a moment, we are not going to chant going forward. >> the president and aides and allies have said that president's issue is not with immigration, it's with illegal imm...

That would go in the history books like a bill conor moment where you have that level of hatred emanating from a gigantic crowd towards four women of color just struck me as -- i haven't seen that level of divisiveness in these very divisive times. >> did the president did enough to shut it down? >> i thought the president recognized he has a political problem and so he may have heard from a republican or two, but obviously in the fact that he's lying about what he did in the rally itself, he didn't stop the rally at the time it happened. he didn't do what any other normal politician would do ...

Pointblank in black and white. again, in terms of political currency, the president knows what he's doing here, doesn't he? >> i believe he does. and the people around him also know and the republican party, which has been very silent on this issue rather amazingly also knows. in 2018, i looked this up, 60% of white men voted for a republican and 66% of non-college-educated white men voted for republicans. this is the base. this is what trump is appealing to. it is, i have to say, has ugly overtones. i'm surprised the congresswomen haven't told him to go back to germany or to scotland because ...