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Something like that, craig. >> fitting in nicely there on the hill. we'll get you back to the white house soon enough. questions swirling today over whether michael cohen may have damaged his chances at cutting a deal with prosecutors by releasing that audiotape of the secretly recorded conversation with his boss president trump. "the washington post" reports today that current and former law enforcement officials question why cohen as someone who's angling for a plea deal, can make it harder to cut a deal. jill, could releasing that audiotape, could it actually end up hurting michael cohen? >...

President has done, whether it was stuff with comey or sessions or with his own white house counsel, and you put them into a larger narrative, does it tell a story of a broader obstruction? does the president take several different actions as a way of trying to impede this investigation? and could mueller take all of that stuff and give it to congress? and with what would a democratic congress do with that information? >> jill, lastly to you, picking up where michael left off there, let's say hypothetically that the special counsel does in fact conclude that there is enough evidence to demonst...

>> no. i think any sitting president -- any politician is open to scrutiny. i don't think he's been unfairly or more scrutinized than anyone else. i think he continually, as he does, i think, he's always does, makes everything about himself. and has to fight back on everything. and it's not serving him well now. there are things that are going on in the country that are positive, but nobody hears about them very much, and it's donald trump's fault because he keeps changing the subject to stuff that doesn't help him. >> joe lockhart, good to have you on. coming up, president trump says a date...

Mueller? >> i think it would be a total upheaval in the senate. >> i think the president ought to cool it a little bit. i think it doesn't help him. i like the president. he is a person of strong emotions and he sometimes speaks out when he shouldn't. in the case of bob mueller, i like bob mueller. he is honest. as he very good prosecutor. he is straightforward. and i think it won't indict the president. and i think the president should treat that it way. it would be the stupidest thing the president could do is fire him. he could do that but he won't do that and he shouldn't do that. >> now, ...

The president launched all of these attacks against bob mueller over the weekend. i wonder if you feel -- if you're okay with that? >> uh, no. i -- i -- i don't like that and i noticed subsequently that they sent out a release from the white house saying they have no discussions and no intentions of terminating him. but, no, i think he needs to leave mueller alone. >> reporter: do you think that there needs to be an effort in congress to protect him legislatively? a bill to protect -- >> you know, i can't imagine -- i can't possibly imagine why senate leadership wouldn't place a protection in ...