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Putting in a new attorney general who could fire bob mueller because he wouldn't be recused the russia investigation. all the swirl taints any of the policy moves he makes in the policy area. >> charlie you've been at this a while have you ever seen a tempo or volume of leaks like this. >> everything i just said notwithstanding there is no doubt that we have been through through an avenue laj -- avalanche of leaks. part of that due to which faction is mad at hue. that is not illegal. that's just ordinary information come out without -- not through official channels but doesn't implicate the la...

Fire him to be hands off. obviously trump is not wanting to fire him or get rid of him because of his lack of leaks investigations so much but because he stands in the way of putting in a new attorney general who could fire bob mueller because he wouldn't be recused the russia investigation. all the swirl taints any of the policy moves he makes in the policy area. >> charlie you've been at this a while have you ever seen a tempo orr volume of leaks like this. >> everything i just said notwithstanding there is no doubt that we have been through through an vanch of leaks he part of that due to w...

Orr volume of leaks like this. >> everything i just said notwithstanding there is no doubt that we have been through through an vanch of leaks he part of that due to which faction is mad at hue. that is not illegal. that's just ordinary information come out without -- not through official channels but doesn't implicate the law in any way. notwithstanding anyone involved in national security laws knows that we have seen a lot of information about -- information that was gathered through surveillance or transcripts of presidential phone calls and in ways that is extraordinary that we wouldn't se...

And sent a letter to congress about opening something up with hillary clinton. we know that caused a spike in negative coverage of the campaign. i don't know what would have happened in july if he would have put that out there then. we don't know what he had yet. there are probably reasons people didn't want him to do it at that moment in time. maybe more hard evidence was developed later. i can't answer that. >> you've met comey. you've worked with prosecutors who worked with comey. do you think he is independent? >> he has been independent brout mo -- throughout most of his career. but i bel...

Headline. >> president trump would not have this headline. >> he would not have this headline here if he had not tweeted three weeks ago. it's staggering. >> appears to be kind of a silly blurt on his part that has turned into an international scene. >> he obviously doesn't understand the implication of the job he holds or the words he says. so let's talk about the implications. how serious is this? >> the investigation itself, even if it ends up nowhere, even if 12, 18 months, i think that's kind of a realistic time line, that is going on. that is always in the background. news about that is ...