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That's not the end of the matter 0off was -- off justly it becomes -- obviously it becomes law, but it's not a settled matter. you need a broad enduring base of support. tom daschle warned the democrats, don't do a big change and a narrow vote. in the 70s and 80s australia went back and forth on healthcare. because the changes passed on narrow votes and were swept away again. megyn: how will they get this repealed after they pass it. you will need 60 votes in the senate to repeal it if it gets passed. plus the president will have to sign off on it. >> obviously it's 60 votes and you will proba...

Is going to reduce our deficit but we are not gonna start it now? >> it is important for viewers to understand we are talking this tax taking effect two presidential elections from now this is a long time in the future. i think the explanation that nancy didn't want to give is that the president is very embarrassed about this proposal. during the presidential campaign, live in virginia, i remember clearly the campaign ads that barack obama ran against john mccain saying he wants to -- john mccain wants to tack your health care benefits. lo and behold that same provision is in president obama's...

Politically does he really believe this is the way to go or because he promised his base? >> he said before he became president he favored a single payer system. he believes if you can start the health care system from scratch he would favor a single payer system. i think the president does favor a big government involvement in health care f no doubt about that >> greta: the red flag on whether this is political or not, the fact that one of the tax if the cadillac doesn't kick in until 2018 the next president will have to live with it. if he thinks it is such a good idea he should impose it no...

Politically does he really believe this is the way to go or because he promised his base? >> he said before he became president he favored a single payer system. he believes if you can start the health care system from scratch he would favor a single payer system. i think the president does favor a big government involvement in health care f no doubt about that >> greta: the red flag on whether this is political or not, the fact that one of the tax if the cadillac doesn't kick in until 2018 the next president will have to live with it. if he thinks it is such a good idea he should impose it no...

>> greta: i don't want to be had as a citizen. you can see today the deep philosophical difference between the two sides. there is in this bill that the tax doesn't kick in until everybody is long gone that truly is political. >> the country has -- the american people have a deep instinct if you can't write a bill that attracts some people from the other side, maybe there's something inately with it. when we passed welfare reform our biggest reform we split the democrats evenly, 101 yes and 101 no. people back home could say that is a good bill because both sides of the aisle came together. >>...