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Wednesday. he said i worked for hillary clinton for a decade and two things are true. she has enormous respect for the secret service and a great relationship with the agents on her detail number two this guy, meaning you, was never on the clinton' detail and i don't recognize him in the slightest. so, dan, you know the internet has a way of working this thing out there. are some photos that have emerged of you on detail. griff: the photo doesn't lie. that looks like a young dapping bongino. what happened between that photo and now but the point is, the photos don't lie. it's the same. what do...

Assembling a narrative from there. that's what you saw in the document the that were released with the papadoupolos guilty plea. and that's indispensable. >> mueller's a different kind of opponent than trump has faced meaning most have been political, and bully pulpit/"fox news," flat form is very powerful, but that's not what motivates mueller. he's not running for election and he's operating in a pretty closed room with his associates. and so, i think it's going to be hard for the president to simply stop it with the shifting explanations. often defied the facts that are very clear. right in...

>> i think it may be more pronounced in arizona but it's not unique. my colleagues are finding that as well. it's really changed, the type of politics that we are expected to engage in. >> yeah. not even sure we would call it politics. normalizing behavior we shouldn't be normalizing. last week, we had a senator on, talking about health care. i couldn't get a straight answer and i said has the president ever lied? he said the president doesn't lie, that the president speaks in hyperbole. is that what you mean by normalizing behavior that we shouldn't be normalizing? >> i think so. i said in th...

Did that to jimmy carter because he didn't like the seats he gave him at the inauguration and tip o'neill wrote about it in his biography. >> you are wright, more publicly, i would say the flipside of what you are saying the president learned in business that you could mess with somebody but then as the next deal comes around, it's a good deal for both sides, they will come back to the table. that's not how it is in mr. clintons from that's having a short memory. >> it works in business, it does not work in politics. every republican know what is he did to bob corker, every one and it impacts ...

Wilson. >> and the congresswoman stood up, and in a long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there in all of that and talked about how she funding for that building. how she took care of her constituents she called up president obama on that phone call he gave the money, the $20 million to build the building, and she sat down. and we were stunned that she done it. even for someone that that is that empty a barrel, we were >> so facts again matter. the problem for kelly is that there is videotape, and videotape doesn't lie. but i want you to watch it for yourself and ask ...