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You've got two little kids and your husband is working all the time, it makes sense to lean out and focus on the home sphere. >> is that what you're finding the women that you interviewed, the one that you interviewed and the women you talked to, is that a negative reality? >> no. what is wonderful about what is happening is the women are embracing this. it's not the survivaling boredom that betty ferdinand described years ago. it's embracing motherhood and the home and doesn't mean everything has to be perfect. they are emphatic about that. it's not like martha stewart, perfect, perfect. it's...

That with? >> well, let me say first of all, i think it will be pretty interesting if former constitutional law professor, president obama's obama's signature law gets kicked out because it's unconstitutional, but i think there's a good chance that will happen. the fact of the matter is that the law is very unpopular, unlike most entitlements it has continued to stay unpopular after it was enacted. i think there's -- that's very revealing. the american people know there's a lot in here that's bad. but that doesn't mean everything is bad. but look, let me give you a perfect example. you mention...

That with? >> well, let me state, first of all, i think it will be interesting if former constitutional law professor president obama's signature law gets kicked out because it is unconstitutional. but i think there is a very good chance that that will happen. the fact of the matter is that the law is very unpopular. unlike most entitlements, it has continued to stay unpopular after it was enacted. i think that is very revealing. the american people know there is a lot in there that is bad but that doesn't mean everything is bad but look, let me give you a perfect example. you mentioned preexi...

That with? >> well, let me state, first of all, i think it will be interesting if former constitutional law professor president obama's signature law gets kicked out because it is unconstitutional. but i think there is a very good chance that that will happen. the fact of the matter is that the law is very unpopular. unlike most entitlements, it has continued to stay unpopular after it was enacted. i think that is very revealing. the american people know there is a lot in there that is bad but that doesn't mean everything is bad but look, let me give you a perfect example. you mentioned preexi...

That with? >> well, let me state, first of all, i think it will be interesting if former constitutional law professor president obama's signature law gets kicked out because it is unconstitutional. but i think there is a very good chance that that will happen. the fact of the matter is that the law is very unpopular. unlike most entitlements, it has continued to stay unpopular after it was enacted. i think that is very revealing. the american people know there is a lot in there that is bad but that doesn't mean everything is bad but look, let me give you a perfect example. you mentioned preexi...