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Some closed-door society. >> david: let's consider there's an ongoing investigation. you may not want to compromise anything. special counsel or senate committees. >> chris: they should get the first shot at everybody. the other two investigations. why doesn't mueller -- >> eboni: i think everyone's first round should be closed-door and if it's not a security risk, then we do open. >> brian: we have to close the door. coming up ahead, when we return, the most boneheaded pc move of all time done by espn. inexplicable decision to remove one of its broadcasters because his name is robert lee and ...

>> why doesn't mueller just say every american has an obligation to testify fully and completely in front of the grand jury. we won't treat the president any differently. we will send him a subpoena. he has to testify. his lawyer can be outside the room. that's the way we treat everybody. why isn't that a good answer? >> the reason is wave constitutional system where the president is the executive branch. and he has different -- he has different responsibilities and it is never been said, whether it was a civil case, clinton v. jones. he's in a unique place with regard to the constitutional sy...

If it's real or virtual, but i saw it on twitter, t-shirts that say, lordy, i hope there are tapes. probably somebody is taking them and selling them for $20. >> without question, yes. >> what about that? he keeps finding himself in these situations of his own making, and this is a classic example of that. at some point, doesn't mueller have to say, are there tapes or not? and if there are tapes, hand them over. >> i'm sure that moment has come and being asked. we already know that comey's handed over his files to mueller already. so surely that will occur. i think that line, "lordy, i hope th...