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There could be some criminal conduct. we are trying to suppress the story only days before the presidential election. some legal experts suggest that could be conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws. >> yeah. maybe. if that suspicion ever moves in i would have to pay attention to it then. but i think we are a way a way i from that. i'm not criticizing you for covering the story. i think it's another example of thing that is kind of burst up. we talk about it for a while and if it doesn't pan out to be very much and we move on. i think that's more likely with this than the fec gets involved...

Here on this critically important day? >> well, it was obviously confused messaging and this is going to sound maybe like this doesn't pan out and in our linear thing and it was confused messaging on purpose. this was a jacket that as kate said and as she's reported so many times that obviously the first lady wore on purpose. was it aimed at somebody in her family? was it aimed at somebody else? we don't know. i was texting back and forth with somebody who's in trump world who thought that maybe it was a message to the people who cover her, to the media saying, you know, i know that you focus ...

We've slapped $50 billion of tariffs on china, who we want to help us negotiate denuclearization with north korea, all right, and as mary suggested, we should have our allies along if we are going to rightfully target china's trade practices, however, we have also targeted all those allies britain, europe, japan, south korea, with tariffs of their own. so this is a very complicated process and i presume the white house has a plan but if it doesn't pan out, gary cohen is right, we will start seeing negative impact on the american economy eventually. paul: that plan i don't see frankly. i think ...

Chess here. we've slapped $50 billion of tariffs on china, who we want to help us negotiate denuclearization with north korea, all right, and as mary suggested, we should have our allies along if we are going to rightfully target china's trade practices, however, we have also targeted all those allies britain, europe, japan, south korea, with tariffs of their own. so this is a very complicated process and i presume the white house has a plan but if it doesn't pan out, gary cohen is right, we will start seeing negative impact on the american economy eventually. paul: that plan i don't see frank...

Military presence. and our influence. so i think that is part of the reason why they support kim jong-un own but is just a legacy from the soviet days. they also support kim jong-un because they frankly, they don't like sanctions to which they have been subjected. and they were interfering in elections and in europe and the united states possesses the political and potential economic benefit from resisting the sanctions. they believe if our relationship with kim jong-un own and north korea doesn't pan out, they want to be there and to take advantage of increased trade. they're already violatin...