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President in 2020 after this speech at the golden globes. >> that a new day is on the horizon! >> reporter: when asked if he could beat her? >> yeah, i'll beat oprah. oprah would be a lot of fun. >> reporter: but oprah recently put the rumors to bed. >> it's just not in my spirit. it's not my dna. >> reporter: it was actually on oprah's show back in 1988 when she asked trump if he would ever run for president. >> i just don't think i have the inclination to do it. i love what i'm doing, i really like it. >> it also doesn't pay as well. >> no, it doesn't. >> reporter: now, she's the one taking ...

So then how on earth do you do that? seeing that the hypocrisy coming from the white house -- because michael, all you have to do is go through the timeline. it's very simple. and then play back, as i did at the start of the show at 10:00 eastern, and play back the words and the timeline, and you see that they are obfuscating, they're not telling the truth about the exact timeline about what happened. so who does what amanda says, who's going to put the house in order for a congress and a senate who don't seem to want to take on this president? >> i think we're in a bit of a trap here. we have...

Order for a congress and a senate who don't seem to want to take on this president? >> i think we're in a bit of a trap here. we have a president who doesn't pay very much attention to public opinion when it's running against him. and a congress that isn't going to be inclined to impose any order on the situation. the only thing that i can imagine might move the white house is a steep decline in the public opinion polls that might move the president to have another shake-up. so, you know -- i think perhaps a truly professional chief of staff who's got washington experience, who's maybe of the ...

Jump on the bandwagon as well with this tweet, eventually deleted, a gif of winfrey. nothing but respect for our future president. nbc clarifying today, yesterday i tweet about the golden globes and oprah winfrey was sent by a third-party agency in real-time during the broadcast. it is in reference to a joke made during the monologue and not meant to be a political statement. we have since removed the tweet. >> what i know for sure is that speaking your truth is the most powerful tool we all have. so i want all the girls watching here now to know that a new day is on the horizon! >> i just don...

That doesn't pay. then the nation gets frisky with whoever, russia. so we have a nation that doesn't pay. the nation gets aggressive. we end up in world war iii for somebody that doesn't even pay. do you think they think we are geniuses? here's what's happened. in the last short period of time. sultdenberg the head of nato. my biggest fan of the whole world, he couldn't get anybody to pavement we have taken in $11 billion extra and going in to 2020 or 2021, we will have taken in $33 billion extra and they aren't even doing what they should be doing, just so you understand. it's terrible. the w...