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In the white house this morning? >> well, that's a good question, far be it for me to try to guess the state of mind anyone let alone the president. you're right. we know the president as his time of ceo really valued loyalty. this is a very different kind of workplace. the white house doesn't belong to him. he is literally a government worker living in public housing, and the constraints of that are tough to deal with for someone who is simply used to being in the private sector. i do think, though, that this is kind of in some ways the epott owe sis of something that's been happening for a w...

The resistance, the resistance against trump administration but you are pushing back on joining the administration with the fight against sanctuary city laws. is it your sense that as goes california will go the rest of the country? >> we have strong leadership in southern california against what's going on because we're on the border. the rest of california, led by jerry brown and gavin newsome, they're out of control with sanctuary city stuff. hopefully we continue to push back and the american people are speaking loud and clear. this is a winning message from the president. this is the numb...

Pointed to a close race. what we saw this time were a lot of these forecasters taking the polls, putting them through thr special sauce, and coming up with an 85% chance. that wasn't the polls. nate silver at 538 doesn't poll. he takes the polls, puts them through his models, puts economic indicators in, wham-o, everybody thought hillary was on to a landslide. the surprise is we put a lot of faith in people, you know, we just didn't have from those forecasters a sense that how do we communicate uncertainty? and there was more uncertainty in the industrial states, you know, they were going to b...

You want to reduce violent crime, you have to get people out of the cradle to prison pipeline and get them into the cradle to college to career pipeline. if you make the investments early and get people on the right track, keep them on the right track you can reduce crime and save money. but it doesn't poll as well -- as the children defense fund calls it, the cradle to prison pipeline, you get people into that and it polls well but it doesn't make any sense. >> your colleague in congress, back when he was in congress in the 1990s as well, kweisi mfume, he told me we need to call out harry rei...

Care act. you have a situation where more than 8 million people have actually enrolled in the law, where medicaid enrollment is up 15%, and where 3 million people are actually paying less than $100 per month. and yet it still doesn't poll very well. why do you suppose that the affordable care act in practice and in function is being so successful but is still sort of empirically despised by not a majority but a plurality of americans? >> well, you know -- and thank you very much for having me. it's great to be with you. i enjoy the program. >> thank you. >> you've had this relentless assault f...