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Writing that nato will not expand it to the east it. this will some nato countries are out there ready. if putin does invade ukraine. however all 30 nations are not united on how to respond if putin proceeds. my question to you, what option of consequences atlee president biden? >> what a great question for you are right, arthel, putin really is obsessed with nato. make no mistake, ukraine is not a nato member but officials go to the nato meeting, ukraine is in the cyber early warning system. we have forces there helping train ukraine. that means basically we have to defend ukraine's existence...

But there are elements of the negotiated path. >> the whole issue of nato, you know, where russia is coming from, isn't that a red herring. doesn't putin know that he is not going to be able to receive a commitment, whether it be from nato allies or the u.s. on whether ukraine would become a member or not? >> well, it's a great question, fred, because the issue is, is he making the ask because he wants, you know, a lot of other concessions? he knows he's not going to get that one. but he's certainly gotten nch's attention so he'll get some movement on other things. or is that just so core to h...

Picture of the remarks this week were biden made some plugs and talks about minor incursions really did not help. there's still time to turn that around. putin has got to look at that situation and say it's just not worth it. right now, following on the debacle in afghanistan, he is gambling the u.s. is a week and nato cannot get it together. i think he is wrong on that. nato has been pretty firm they demand ukraine sovereignty be respected. we see them making quiet moves to reinforce that. the key now is to use diplomacy and military reinforcement that's not worth they should not step across....

Bath in november. >> off this one issue. harold, let me go through the executions. n't inflation is transitory, the broken supply chain. it's a good thing, i think jen psaki tried to tell us, now it's putin. will he pull off these excuses? >> i don't know, i'm not sure any of us believe that vladimir putin is not a big reason for some of the challenges we have globally with prices going up and recessionary pressures affecting other parts of the world. is it all about -- did this problem exist before putin? of course it did. no doubt we were facing inflation. and this problem has complicated th...

Putin. >> i want to see the video of your dad hatcheting off the side view mirrors. ahead, hate crime hoaxer jussie small let melting down after he learned he was going to go to jail.