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Women back but it's also, i think, much bigger and will have enduring effects because you just won't have young people thinking the republican party is relevant to their lives. >> this is where sandra, you know, to be talking about contraception, to be denied to speak on a panel. all white men talking about birth control and saying it was not relevant that she had an opportunity to speak. this is -- this was for young women, i believe, our anita hill moment. this was a moment -- >> interesting. >> -- where you said, oh, my god, they're talking about my birth control? where before we knew in th...

Sense of things? >> sure. i think a better answer is we should be having kids for the love of it, not for the joy of it. love is messy and complicated and sometimes you hate the person you love and sometimes you want to put them in a time-out. but it's not always joyful but more realistic. >> kristen? >> i think the love of it is very important. i also think that jessica spoke to an important point when she talked about the source of the unhappiness. the unequal division of labor and the pressures of motherhood. just to go back to the personal, the personal is so political, motherhood is the c...

Especially catholics who use contraception. i think both high pocket the cease are true. they've taken such positions they they've opened up a space for the democrats. >> let's be clear. >> i agree with stanley. the situation is different on abortion and gay rights for example because on abortion, the position of the people has been largely the same. on gay rights it's been moving and changing more rapidly than on anywhere of the social issues we've seen in memory. there's been a tremendous shift and it's a generation shift but it's also a shift within generations. people under 35, what's the ...

I think she ran for senate in michigan. this is her talking in a fascinating way about the role, the relationship between the personal and political and motherhood as a politician running for office. this is lenora romney. >> she's told she shouldn't put her time there, she should be driven away here there and every place but not make a contribution any place. let someone else do it in the day care centers or let someone else do it in the schools and they are not doing it. if you were told the most important thing you could do to raise your children so they would become happy, well adjusted ci...

They were following pa that states here. the idea there's an explain this chief can do it for now. if hi doesn't do it himself. he could look weeker. >> i know our client has talked about this. obama care, we are owning these message a and i think that ispy peace river at point. now the president has to personify that more instead of running way. >> the most concrete example ol' f that, boy uld say. i thought this was surprising. if you went back and said four years from now when the presidentst s at the convention what would figure more in. t the recoveringry act or the bail joutd?