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Power which need not be criminal offenses. a member of congress might decide one of these things, that doesn't rise to an impeachable offense but the whole pattern does. so you give members a chance to vote on the whole pattern of trump's misconduct. >> and so to that point, many have drawn parallels between this and watergate, one being that trump and the administration are engaged in intensifying fight over subpoenas, and the third is related to document presentation. in fact, it's that president nixon failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly aut...

Normally does which is express concern and then vote with trump. but she is the most interesting. particularly because she is in cycle. she has to face the voters next year. mitt romney does not. >> right. do you see maybe a strategy developing here among republicans, which is call out the behavior but maybe not go so far as to say impeach. in fact, maybe say don't impeach. let the voters decide? >> i really think you've seen a hardening of strategies in the last few days on all sides. the democrats have, are now firmly in the we're moving forward because it is protecting the constitution. the...

The idea that this inquiry into the origins of the 2016 drive to look into trump on counterintelligence basis are being treated as if they were improper dirt digging which there's no reason to believe. >> folks are making a separation between these inquiries with william barr, the uk, australia and that call the president had with his ukrainian counterpart. is what the speaker of the house when asked about this coming together to the level of impeachment. >> your republican colleagues, a is a but there is nothing here that rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors >> that remains to b...

It becomes whether the proof is there. if you're going to do a political crime, that is to say, an abuse of power that doesn't rise to the level of a penal offense, that's a much tougher not to crack. it brings in not only a bunch of aspects of this particular episode with the ukrainians that we don't know about yet, but also, you will have to compare how trump performed here to situations with other president presidents. so, i just think a political impeachment as opposed to a straight up legal impeachment in the sense that you actually have a felony, is a much sharper one. >> bret: quickly, ...

Substantively, there is more than enough. i'm even putting aside the fact that this president has already been implicated in a serious felony in the southern district of new york by his own justice department. but yesterday what came out i would add to what matt just said, it is not just that robert mueller made the point that the russians are at it again. he also very strongly made the point thanks to adam schiff that what the president's campaign did in welcoming that foreign interference was unethical, unamerican and undemocratic. and could be a crime. the elements weren't met here is what ...