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Conservative position and true position a lot of independents is you have to reform these entitlement programs. we are going over a cliff of debt and deficit and we are hampering our future growth and opportunity. that will be the debate. i want paul ryan making that case standing with me. >> steve from wisconsin go ahead. >> it -- i expect them to embrace it and run on it. when you go back to the time i think it was the first inklings of a romney ryan ticket it was in late march when ryan was stumping along with mitt romney before the wisconsin primary. mitt romney said some things in a radio...

Clinton picked al gore in 88 at a time when he was senior to clinton. there was no geographical diversity. people said that was a strange pick. he emphasizes the new democratic party two moderate young southerners running against. unfortunately in my view successfully. two successful challenger races making a strong pick tells you something about the presidential candidate. this is a strong wick. it is a bold pick it doesn't run away from the controversial house budget. people can say it's rash and foolish but this shows strength on romney's part. when you hear joe sitting there in the studio ...

Local television to talk about local politics. he's the dean of the new york delegation, so the other members look up to him. he's known to have provided help, even across the aisle to the republican members of the delegation here in new york. so he's, he's not a warm and fuzzy figure, but he is certainly beloved by his colleagues in the political world. and he's pretty well liked by most journalists. he's usually good for a equip or a quote. doesn't run away, even when things are going against him. >> errol good to see you, errol louis is a cnn contributor and a new york "daily news" columnis...

>> alisyn: on and on. >> tucker: i don't think he should complain, he's one of the reasons why. as a native california, i blame bill maher. that's my home state, i think he should be quiet and pay the taxes. >> alisyn: maybe a change of heart. >> tucker: maybe, but i think he should pay the results of his consequences. doesn't run away at that jackson hole, bill maher. >> clayton: perhaps headed to cpac, i don't know if that's going to happen. a straw poll squeaker yesterday in cpac, two raising republican stars neck and neck. only one could come out on top. elizabeth prann. >> reporter: and w...