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>> i do. i think he is. i've been talking to him, and i think he's deadly serious. i think he's identified in his mind a clear void here, a vacuum in the republican party between the moderates like mitt romney on one side and the tea party on the other. and he's thinking there's a way through the middle here. i think he's playing quite a clever game. i've been saying to people since i took over this show, not your show, my show, obviously -- >> it's only a matter of time. it's only a matter of time. >> of course. but it's interesting, talking to him, he's been pumping this up and people have b...

Donald trump will not be the gop nominee nor next president of the united states. we can compare him to perot. every cycle are these rich odd famous candidates who begin dipping their toe in the water. he will not make it through. he started off with a crazy argument on birther stuff and hasn't brought up much but a large amount of arrogance and media time. that will get you up in the polls but he has name recognition and not someone i'm willing to take seriously yet. >> even if he doesn't run, this is an indictment on gop, haley barbour and republican establishment, they're so desperate for a...

2008 and still got beat by huckabee and he he doesn't want to make that mistake, ill he' make some efforts, but make it clear that isn't where my emphasis is. he obviously has a homefield advantage in new hampshire and has a house there and i think he'll move down to florida and make a stand there and do well in nevada. he's got a lot of money and a national organization and maybe the feeling is maybe as a war of attrition, he can outlast the other candidates. but i think the other shoe that has to drop is mike huckabee. a lot of the other candidates, like michelle bachmann have a much bigger ...

Were just talking about if you don't mind. since sarah palin may not run, bachmann may not run for president, thun isn't running. they're all going to track these crazy, wild right wingers. look at the way huckabee's been behaving last week. is that what's going to go on? they're going to appeal to the far right crowd on this birther issue, because they want to get that crowd that doesn't have a candidate. john? >> i don't know if all of them are going to go that far, chris and we haven't seen tim pawlenty go that far. >> he wants to go back to don't ask, don't tell, that's playing with the ri...

Crazy, wild right wingers. look at the way huckabee's been behaving last week. is that what's going to go on? they're going to appeal to the far right crowd on this birther issue, because they want to get that crowd that doesn't have a candidate. john? >> i don't know if all of them are going to go that far, chris and we haven't seen tim pawlenty go that far. >> he wants to go back to don't ask, don't tell, that's playing with the right wing. >> that's not as far as going on the birther and the madrassa front. i think your central point is exactly right. especially if mike huckabee doesn't run...