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You only got 65 of 197 republicans in the house to vote for this, obviously they are all in fear of trump and his political power, but you can see the demise of instinct that push them to power in the first place which was about smaller government. apparently that's gone. >> constituency for that is much smaller than it turned out to be. [laughter] chris: let me ask you about that, karl, conservatives used to talk about the president you worked for george w. bush, bush 43 and say he was a big government conservative, where does donald trump fit on that scale? >> well, i'm not certain there's a...

Front. you only got 65 of 197 republicans in the house to vote for this, obviously they are all in fear of trump and his political power, but you can see the demise of instinct that push them to power in the first place which was about smaller government. apparently that's gone. >> constituency for that is much smaller than it turned out to be. [laughter] chris: let me ask you about that, karl, conservatives used to talk about the president you worked for george w. bush, bush 43 and say he was a big government conservative, where does donald trump fit on that scale? >> well, i'm not certain th...

You only got 65 of 197 republicans in the house to vote for this, obviously they are all in fear of trump and his political power, but you can see the demise of instinct that push them to power in the first place which was about smaller government. apparently that's gone. >> constituency for that is much smaller than it turned out to be. [laughter] chris: let me ask you about that, karl, conservatives used to talk about the president you worked for george w. bush, bush 43 and say he was a big government conservative, where does donald trump fit on that scale? >> well, i'm not certain there's a...

It's clear. >> is there another option to continue to investigate? >> that's the other thing that's troubling. what prosecutor if you don't have evidence and know it's clear this guy was up to no good, what prosecutor doesn't say let's keep investigating until we have more. it's a bad prosecutor. >> he keeps saying we live in a different world now. i would understand that if he's talking about me too. or women in the workplace. right? when it comes to child sex trafficking, and child prostitution. there's people have always been serious about prosecuting people involved in that. this was -- we...

Severe and that in the end is what he was worried about, very clear. >> isn't there another option to continue to investigate? >> that's exactly it. the other thing that i found so troubling is what prosecutor, if you don't have enough evidence and you know -- it's clear this guy was up to no good. he was doing bad things. what prosecutor doesn't say, let's keep investigating till we have more? it's just a bad prosecutor. >> kirsten, he keeps saying we live in a different world now. listen, i would understand that if he's talking about me too or women in the workplace and that sort of thing, r...