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They were deeply involved in trying to affect opinion in this country, either to motivate people to vote or motivate people to stay home. they had a very targeted, in my view, sophisticated approach. they had messages for everybody. black lives matter. white sue precpremacists didn't matter. they had messages for everything. polling data like this would help them. they had other polling data readily available to them. >> you were director of the national intelligence while this was going on during the campaign of 2016. you were still in office. did you know that manafort was providing this inf...

He was intending that that oligarch turn it over to two pro-russian ukrainian oligarchs who owed him a few million dollars. what does that say to you? >> well, this may not be a smoking gun, but it is a wisp. >> of what? >> collusion. that's been the issue here all along. i cannot think of an innocent explanation for why the campaign manager for the trump campaign would share internal polling data with the russians. more over in my book i talk about how the russians tailored their appeals to various groups, either interest groups or on a geographical basis, to meddle with the election and affe...

He is in solitary confinement still. his lawyers inadvertently -- we reported this yesterday -- provided some confirmation that during the campaign when he was the chairman, he was providing sensitive trump campaign internal polling data to a russian oligarch with close ties to the russian gru, the military intelligence unit over there, and he wanted that information to go to two pro-russian ukrainian oligarchs who supposedly owed him some money. what does that say to you about where this investigation is right now? >> here is what it doesn't say. there can be any innocent explanation for why ...

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Isn't finish, the investigation isn't over. now, is he just at the wrapping-up stage or is he still doing an active investigation? i don't think any of us can say that with certainty. the only thing this tells you for sure is that mueller isn't finish. so the people who were saying, well, he's about to hand in his report in the next few weeks, i think that's -- that idea at this point is extremely unlikely. >> phil, what does it tell you? >> i spent four-and-a-half years with that guy, let's go through characteristics, with robert mueller. valor, judgment. i did not list the word patience. he ...