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Watch these three. haley barbour, tim pawlenty, and who was the third one? not newt. no. interestingly wasn't in it. if you had to pick your top three -- >> well, you know, conventional wisdom, what i would say mitt romney, tim pawlenty and who did you say the first one was? whatever. >> haley barbour. >> yeah, i don't know. see, i think -- i'm not saying him be a candidate. literary critic said -- i think next week change as lot. paul ryan will emerge, i think, as the single most important republican in the country when he is the chairman of the budget committee. this budget we will see from ...

It. and it's like every two weeks, okay, let's cut another -- this is no way to run a railroad as i think both of you will admit. and the real problem here i think is that you haven't even started dealing with the big problem this year. >> absolutely. because when we're talking about, you know, $70 billion, $73 billion, $75 billion in cuts, versus $1.6 trillion deficit, we're really only playing at the margins. and all of this debate so far has been on one small part of the budget. the domestic discretionary budget. you will never get to the reductions we need unless we can cut in security, ma...

Ju yan is many more ambitious than anything even ronald reagan even proposed. that's going to shape, i think, a lot of the 2012 race. >> how so? >> who walks away from it? does everyone endorse it and think it is serious or not? that's going to have an awful lot -- >> the republicans will run away from it. they ran away from it last year. and they will run away because they won't support the drastic cuts and medicare about to rise in the system and the severe cuts in medicaid that will kriple the economy even further in terms of health care costs. i think it's going to be an interesting debate...

Continue to haunt us. not a question of whether we do deficit reduction, only a question of when. i think you'll see something very shortly. >> this month? >> very shortly. >> we have a whole month. it sounds to me like are you quite willing for democrats to go ahead and vote to lift the debt ceiling, which is necessary. but you kind of -- you republicans are going to stay away from it, and let him do it and take the heat. that's what it sounds like to me. >> we can't con business as usual in washington. we need presidential leadership, dick durban, and part of the gang of six were on the fisc...

Which they are we have destroyed about a third of the tanks in libya as i understand it. we do have a -- an adequate set of rules of engagement to go after these -- these heavy weapons that would inflict harm on civilians. we have some 40 ships, some allied ships of about ten are u.s. the command and control that nato has is operating -- >> but it didn't seem to you weird to have gadhafi on the move and us saying, okay, we're done with the front seat stuff? >> we have a big alliance. air power -- the strike missions can be done by a lot of people. the u.s. is still flying as i understand it, a...