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>> of all the famous people you've met, who's been the most inspiring to you when you actually met them? >> oh. >> apart from the president. >> obviously. of course. of course. i don't know. give me a minute to think about this. >> curious yo you may have met who's said something that's been quite profound to you for whatever reason. >> yeah. >> now mixing these rarefied circles. >> no. yeah. i mean -- >> did you meet the president? >> i did. >> what did he say to you? >> hi, i'm barack. >> he didn't. >> he did. he said, hi, i'm barack. and i said, i know. and of course when i get excited i ge...

Horrible stuff, that. "glee" has a reputation of being a light, fun, maybe frivolous show, but there are moments like that which are really significant and have a real impact on america. >> right. all the light stuff makes the stuff that punchious that much stronger. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you said you cry every single episode. >> i do. one of my biggest acting things is is it has to be my tears otherwise i think i'm cheating. >> how do you get your tears to work? >> it's really just a gland thing. >> can you do it now? >> well, no, i can't do it now. >> some of you actors can literally -- >> i'...

♪ that was the lady gaga episode of "glee," of course, which was brilliant to watch. i love lady gaga. she's just a phenomenon who completely gets what it takes to be a modern-day brand, doesn't she. >> she understands her fans. mm-hmm. >> did you meet her? >> a couple times. >> what did you make of her? >> i completely embarrassed myself to no end. i mean, i bowed. who does that? >> you bowed? >> i bowed to lady gaga. >> she's not royalty. >> well, she had a crown on, so, you know, but -- >> what did she say to you? >> thank you. >> did you have to then do anything else? >> no. i kind of ...

80% physical. a lot of -- i think everything i do is very physical. >> has all that's happened to you, has it toughened you up a? all that bullying, all that ostracizing. >> yeah, i think so. excuse me. >> steeled yourself growing up. >> i think it made me a sarcastic person, for sure. i think sarcasm comes from hard times. >> the good thing is you're welling up because you've been coughing. >> yeah. >> we can cut this and make it look like -- >> like i started crying. right. so i have horrible allergies. that's why i can do it. horrible allergies. >> is it fun, "glee," or like all these shows...

Stop, kurt! please, just stop. come on. >> don't you get how stupid we were? we thought that because no one was teasing us or beating us up that no one cared. like some kind of progress had been made. but it's still the same. >> it's just a stupid joke. >> no, it's not. all that hate, they were just afraid to say it out loud. so they did it by secret ballot. i'm a practical joke. >> moving scene from "glee" starring my guest today, chris cole fer. horrible stuff, that. "glee" has a reputation of being a light, fun, maybe frivolous show, but there are moments like that which are really signific...