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Out. the text messages that came out last week sure point in that direction and that's what i said and i think commonsense says when you look at the history of peter strzok and what he said in those text messages, if that doesn't show intent -- >> you said the fbi was part of an effort to stop president trump from becoming president. >> andrew mccabe's office, deputy director of the fbi, lisa page, peter strzok in his office talking about how they don't want donald trump to be president, we can't afford to take that risk, we need an insurance policy. commonsense -- >> running the investigation...

Threat to national security. now, the mueller investigation, he took it over, it started in june 2016. it is now december 20, 2017. you do the math. these are the facts. jim jordan should know this and if he doesn't, he shouldn't be on the judiciary committee. but if he really wants to get to the bottom of it, he should read the rules. >> and brian stelter, again, this is not the only one delivering this message. you have members of congress doing it and a lot of people on tv right now trying to discredit the mueller investigation, particularly on fox news. i want to play you a little bit of w...

Be president? if that's true, why, then, did he come out, again, and reopen the investigation into hillary clinton's e-mails and never even tell us before the election about the investigation into alleged trump collusion if he was trying to keep donald trump from getting elected, don't you think he might tell voters that. >> we'll have to find out. why did james comey go public and change the exoneration letter and there's all of those things that took place in that investigation. we're trying to get to the bottom of those. >> you said the fbi's trying to defeat donald trump. all i'm saying is...

If it were, the fbi would have too many cases on their hands. you have to have a legal basis for opening a case and you have to articulate the facts. the last thing is, a case could not stay open for more than six months legally unless there are facts that support a violation of federal law or a serious threat to national security. now, the mueller investigation, he took it over, it started in june 2016. it is now december 20, 2017. you do the math. these are the facts. jim jordan should know this and if he doesn't, he shouldn't be on the judiciary committee but if he really wants to get to th...

Documents, routinely do things. you have to show a very high level of. specific intent. i don't think it was there in the arthur anderson case, i don't think it was there the hillary clinton case. i want to make sure we don't politicize it. >> sean: i think we have to be careful. i'm not disagreeing with you. if 33,000 emails are subpoenaed, and you delete them, not only do you delete them, you acid wash and bleach them and then you destroy the other devices that they may be on, that doesn't show intent or do you? d >> you have to demonstrate the chronology. you have to show when they were des...