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This movement should be accommodated. and my point is that there's no place for this movement in american politics and i think that is why the president has lacked clarity in some of his statements. now, again, he's responsible but we all know that the modern american president doesn't sit down and draft his statements, doesn't draft his own speeches. these aides are very influential and i think the president needs to start listening to the highly competent and professionals instead of those who believe in accommodating people hell-bent on dividing this country on excluding american citizens f...

In multilateral discussions about security and trade issues in the region. but i think, again, elise is right. we need to take a very sort of firm stance here. >> so even if the north korean foreign minister, elise, doesn't sit down and meet with tillerson or any other u.s. official, the north korean foreign minister could meet with a lot of people over there and make his points. >> he could, but what secretary tillerson is headed there to do is to make this point, we don't want you talking to north korea. we want to diplomatically isolate them. the question is, do they care? you know, you've ...

With terrorists, then why are we sitting down for peace talks -- [laughter] >> jenna, you are so right. this is exactly what we're doing. why are we doing it? because we're on our way out. there's nothing to say -- jenna: then let's take the kid with us. >> we could fight our way out, that's the other question, are we sitting down with the taliban because we want to make sure we don't shoot our way out? jenna: what is the goal? we've talked about this for years, potentially talking to known terrorists. what is the goal now? >> i don't think there is a very good goal here. i'm not sure we get a...

>> it's bizarre. and it doesn't -- it's not the sort of thing that crops up in a vacuum. leon panetta doesn't sit down and just sort of write this off the toch his head because he feels like doing it. megyn: that's it, memo -- it's a memo for the record. >> why do people draft memos for the record? megyn: generally in litigation it's to cover yourself. >> thank you. megyn: well, why would he do it, though? generally you look at this and you think okay, what if the bin laden raid had gone south, could the president really defend himself by saying look at the memo! i called leon panetta and said...

>> leon panetta doesn't sit down and just sort of write this off the top of his head because he feels like doing it. >> a memo for the record? >> why do people draft memos for the record? >> megyn: generally in litigation, it's to cover yourself. >> thank you. with progressive mobile. great! tyler here will show you everything. check out our new mobile app. now you can use your phone to scan your car's vin or take a picture of your license. it's an easy way to start a quote. watch this -- flo, can i see your license? no. well, all right. thanks. okay, here we go. whoa! no one said "cheese." pr...