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Just a month-long sort of slog through trying to figure out what exactly went on and what is going on is that there's clear evidence now through e-mails that donald trump jr. put out himself that they were in touch with people affiliated with the russian government. it's unclear how that would have slipped anyone's mind for so long. again, just repeated sort of assertions over the months that the campaign had nothing to do with russia. doesn't square with what we're learning now from the e-mails. >> shepard: time lines matter, julie, as you as a reporter know. the timeline is this. on june 9 a...

Saying do things at once. he looked at putin and said, i know you meddled, buddy. >> that's not how it happened. >> that's what they want to say. he went at it first, went a it multiple trieimes. he wanted to look in his eye. how does that square with maybe the day before. >> i think what he said was did you do it? >> it doesn't square because it doesn't square. the president's statements to date in public, even the day before he's sort of blowing it off. then a narrative about a strong leader looking after the national interest but deciding we're going to agree to disagree. the problem is wha...

Banker, the chairman of the bank, he also has ties to vladimir putin who appointed him to head the back. gorkov graduated from the russian academy that trains people to work in russian intelligence and security forces. here is how the white house explains the nature of kushner's meeting with the banker. >> jared did a job in the campaign where he was a conduit to leaders and wants to make sure he is very clear about the role that he played, who he talked to. and that's it. >> that may be true, but it doesn't square with what the bank itself said about the meeting. in a statement, it said jared...

Kushner's meeting with the banker. >> jared did a job during the transition in the campaign where he was a conduit to leaders. he wants to be sure he is clear about the role he played, who he talked to, and then that's it. >> reporter: that may be true, but it doesn't square with what the bank itself said. in a statement, said the executives met with kushner not as a representative of the white house but as head of kushner companies. the bank said its leaders met with numerous global financial executives as it developed a new strategy for the bank. it's interesting the russians seem to contrad...

Banker. >> jared did a job during the transition in the campaign where avenues conduit to leaders. he wants to make sure he's very year about the role he played, who he talked to, and that's it. >> reporter: that may be true, but it doesn't square with what the bank itself has said about the meeting. in a statement the bank said its executives met with kushner not as a representative of the white house but as head of kushner companies. the bank says its leaders met with numerous global financial executives as it developed a new strategy for the bank. it >> it's interesting it contradicts what ...