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The beginning of the news organization, according to her account to nbc news, they sought to bring to the trump campaign's attention some contributions to the democratic national committee that the trump campaign apparently wasn't very impressed with. donald jr. said, thanks, this isn't very much. now that's the story but that doesn't square though with the e-mails that came through rob goldstone from the agalarov family where they offered explicit help from the russian government and seemed to be promising derogatory information about hillary clinton. why do the two stories seem to be so far ...

Telling, and the trump team. that this meeting was about these sanctions. that they came to meet with the trump folks to lobby against these sanctions and give them some information about some contributions to the dnc, and the trump folks looked at and i said this has nothing to do with the campaign. this is a nothing burger. that's their story. that doesn't square with the e-mails that came from the agalarov family which had done business with the trump family, had been involved with the miss universe pageant, had a deal to do with trump tower that didn't come to fruition. we saw these e-mail...

Assad. so your view of this doesn't square with reality. aren't you a little bit embarrassed now that that's obvious? >> no, not at all. first of all, i don't think we know what putin's number one foreign policy is. he has a lot of bigger fish to fry and he is interested in the united states of america. but look, tucker. you and i can disagree on the trump administration, the connections with russia. the bottom line is either of us really don't know. that's why i've been a consistent advocate for what the american people want, which is an independent, bipartisan investigation to get to the bot...

Those missiles into syria, into the puppet regime of vladimir putin. and i thought, pretty embarrassing moment for you, isn't it? >> no, not at all. in fact, i was the first to come out with a bipartisan statement from congress saying two things. saying that president trump did the right thing to hold bashar al-assad accountable for using chemical weapons against innocent people. but also that we need a plan going forward. and i stand by both of those points, and i stand by them in a bipartisan way. >> tucker: those are entirely t legitimate points. i'm not questioning the substance behind the...

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