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By tehran but also locally orchestrated for their own reasons locally. >> colonel jack, one last question for you. we don't have a defense secretary in place right now. yesterday was patrick shanahan's last day. the acting secretary doesn't start until monday. how dangerous is that? >> it's been dangerous for a long time. when shanahan was the acting secretary, we didn't have a secretary of defense either. he was the deputy secretary that means he's the chief operating officer. he does all the administration and logistics and so on. policy was being directed by john bolton on the one hand and ...

Secretary. patrick shanahan leaving. the new acting secretary doesn't start until monday. how much power does this put in the president's hands? >> the president always has a lot of power over military affairs. it is his decision in the end and as he just said in that tweet he decided at the last minute not to go forward. i thought it was interesting that he indicated that it was when a general told him that 150 people would die that he decided that wasn't a good decision and one wonders when that general told him that, if it was just ten minutes before hand that seems a little hard to believe...

Intellectually, emotionally, strategically to take this on in a rational, transparent, and constructive way. i think what brett just said about the consequences of his lying over months and months on lesser issues come to the forenow when he need a political coalition behind him and the american people to believe he is doing this for the right reasons. >> nick, in a normal scenario one would say it is a huge deal there is not currently a secretary of defense. the new acting secretary doesn't start until monday. we are living in trump world, the i and i alone presidency where at the end of the ...

Doesn't think we need to get to the bottom of that is out of his or her mind. >> sean: we lose the country? this is center to what we are as a country. we have to know what brennan, clapper and comey and all of these people did. if barr didn't get to the body of this, this country will be rent asunder. tipping point for the country? >> of course. we have to stop it now. if we don't it will happen again. this doesn't start. this has been going on. >> sean: that's scary. we will come back. when we come back, two people impacted by mueller's partisan witch hunt. what will unfold in the days and w...

It's over, yes. right, exactly. never even starts. >> doesn't start. >> that one and particularly ivanka using personal e-mail and also just -- >> jared and his businesses. >> all the ways that the phone thing to me is all the ways that no one can get him to act right. like seriously, like it's the way, again, the trope of him as toddler is also overdone. but as a parent, the constant prodding you have to do to get a child to act right, and the fact that no one can get him to act right. that's fundamentally the big story of donald trump. >> is there anybody there who really -- >> wants him to ...