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>> asylum seekers have a correct method to approach united states. >> is it okay to have a 5-year-old sign away her rights? steve, are you a father? >> yes, i am, and it's not okay -- >> how do you feel about that? >> her parents -- >> how do you feel about a system that lets a 5-year-old sign away her rights? >> you can ask the question anyway you want. i'm not answering. >> why won't you answering? >> no, i am answering. i just don't answer the way you like. >> you won't answer the specific question. you're blaming it on her family. >> or whomever, whatever adult brings a child to our border...

I'm an immigrant son. i'm an hispanic. we get to decide who belongs in this country, who will add to the prosperity and security of our country. if you call that racist and if you call that small minded -- >> you're putting -- steve, stop. you're putting words in my mouth. >> what are you saying? we have a right to determine who -- >> what i'm saying to you is that the language -- what i'm saying to you is that the language you previously used and laura ingraham has used is, in fact, racially tinged and it is fear mongering. it is not, it is an acumen. your penchant to pivot to calling people ...

Pick your poison. simone, who on the democratic side, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, steve. i'm in a charitable mood. who on this side has been saying we should have the least restrictions possible, i want as much flow into the country as possible, no matter who they are or where they're from? what democrats are pushing for that? >> no democrats are pushing for that, chris. none, because that is not our policy. i think across the board in general, democrats are saying that we have to fix america's broken immigration system. that is going to take a bipartisan effort. but we have to do ...

Homeland where i am from to pack up and go on a treacherous journey because i believe that that is the only way to save my family. >> if that's true, simone, if that's true -- >> that is what's true. perhaps we could inject -- perhaps we could inject a little more humanity into the conversation, steve. >> if they're leaving treachery, they would ask for asylum in mexico. they would not cross an enormous country of mexico to get to the united states border if it were all about fleeing immediate danger and treachery. let's just be honest. >> they want a better life. how do they know they don't f...

>> if you're illegal, you're illegal. are we supposed to say two legs is four? >> what worked, we have to do it in a way that will work for generations to come. and unfortunately, many of my conservative friends, many of my friends on the right are not interested in having a real conversation about immigration in this country. and that's why. >> it's obviously not working. we all agree on that. the question is how to fix it. steve, you want to poke at the left and say they don't want the right things. you're okay with a 5-year-old signing away your rights? are you okay with that? >> what i'm n...