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That is in the millions, too. and the u.n. of course is fearing that the outflow potentially could reach 5 million. again, get your head around that number of people leaving in a matter of a couple of weeks. aid workers say they've never seen anything like it. the flow just doesn't stop. the other thing about that, don, is this could be a long term, years' long issue. there is no indication those people will be able to go home if they still have a home any time soon. so that is i think where the minds of ukrainians are focused at the moment. day to day trying not to die and trying to get out o...

You see a parallel there? >> i absolutely see a parallel. and putin, xi jinping and the ayatollah have all been looking for weakness from the united states and the biden administration have shown that weakness. and one of the, you know, biggest mistakes was the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. leaving behind equipment, abandoning our allies and abandoning an air base. absolutely there are things that we can do. zelenskyy is asking for our support, and i think we need to understand that this doesn't stop at ukraine. vladimir putin wants to renegotiate the end of the cold war. he wants to...

Were very intent, because of the cons and shelling that doesn't stop, so it goes on throughout the day and we can see reports coming from different districts in town that one or other residential areas was hit by russian shelling and i'm myself live quite close to the city centre and i saw on the street that the results of these shelling is, a cluster munition rocket actually was laying just on the pavement inside of it. so one of the historical buildings very close to where i live was destroyed and on fire because of that shelling and yes today the market in kharkiv not on fire and there was ...

Petrified because they have been traps in terrible bombardment for days on end and are just now starting to get out. and i've got to tell you, john, it just doesn't stop, the steady stream of people. they keep coming, trying to cross the bridge. you can see there's water flowing through it. they have to walk across a sort of plank. you can see the upturned car from when that bridge was originally downed. but this for the people right now, john, is the only way to safety. and it is relative safety, of course, because even the city center is being encroached upon as the fighting gets closer and ...

Why that is happening, particularly around kyiv, nobody is entirely sure. it's been speculated that it is due to logistical problems due to them running out of fuel. but the reality as we are now is the map of ukraine in general, the areas the russians have been taking, has been relatively static for a while and much of the focus of the russian effort at the moment seems to be on targeting areas either through artillery or from the air. be back with developments in ukraine that we have other breaking news from the ferry operator p&0 ferries that has suspended sailings ahead of a major announce...