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Tunnels. even tell one joke that once they got out that it took them ten years to get out of prison whereas the shawshank redemption character, it took 20 years to get out. kate? >> trying to break some kind of record. miguel, thank you so much. also this evening, arthur rod rickde roderick and harry houck. things that hits me is he was worg working from winter through spring. he had free reign from 11:30 p.m. every night to go through the catacombs of the prison until 5:30 in the morning. doesn't this -- shouldn't that shock everyone? >> it's hard to believe that at 11:30 was the last time ...

For another candidate give $100 each. you want as many people as possible to have skin in the game. if they have skin in the game for a candidate, they're really going to scare. they're going to volunteer. they're going to work. they're certain to come out and vote. you have to look at not just the total of numbers, but at the number of people giving. >> i didn't look at that particular factoid, so i'm going to go back to the money thing, professor. regardless of you gauging that money, doesn't this keep you in a race longer than you would normally be the race regardless of the votes because m...

Hostages that have been lost and they all talk about a bad communication with the government and i think we're not doing a very good job with the hostages that have been -- with he need to do something. i wouldn't call this person a czar but i would put one central person in charge of this. >> david, doesn't this have the possibility of ramping up the ransoms? >> well i don't think so and to avoid another layer of bureaucracy that was just alluded to i think you assign it this portfolio if you will to the national security adviser, national security council or at the pentagon or its state, bec...

Doesn't this, when you put all the dots together, doesn't it tell you that this is a woman who was a little shady? aren't you tired of some of these -- these scandals? one after another? and by the way, we found out about this because her e-mail was hacked. that's he we found out about it. that's why she's supposed to have a government e-mail. >> judge, due respect, i haven't heard that comment or that accusation anywhere but here that her e-mail got hacked. if anything, her private server that she kept in her home was more secure -- >> you're wrong. >> -- than what -- >> i'm holding the form ...

Secretary of state. doesn't this, when you put all the dots together, doesn't it tell you that this is a woman who was a little shady? aren't you tired of some of these -- these scandals? one after another? and by the way, we found out about this because her e-mail was hacked. that's he we found out about it. that's why she's supposed to have a government e-mail. >> judge, due respect, i haven't heard that comment or that accusation anywhere but here that her e-mail got hacked. if anything, her private server that she kept in her home was more secure -- >> you're wrong. >> -- than what -- >> i...