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Their credibility is on the line. democracy has been talked about. i am glad to see there's movement. i don't know if this happened in a way that will affect the midterms, but i can say it would be an important talking point for the president, for members of congress going out there, that we were the ones that were standing up for our democracy. for our institutions. the hope is that it doesn't translate. not sure that it will, but it's important that we have the ability to think. >> well, jackie, talking about the midterms, about that messaging, there's the action, that's what we've been talk...

Young, new mayors across the country. the democrats can say, we did this. we put them there. those are the people we should elevate. let joe biden come in at the end, if you will, but then elevate all these other folks because they're people we would love to see as new standard bearers of the party. we have a new mayor in the city of new york who wants to be the new face of the democratic party. i think the message can be unifying. joe biden doesn't have to lead it, but he certainly has to be there at the end to say this is the party that, this is our party, this is our party. >> jackie, there...

Calculus in these things, it's going to transition to a guaranteed job. no, you are going to be a rapper, wrestler, play in the nfl. all of those things, even if you are the best at where you are at, doesn't translate anywhere. and they are now saying listen, we know you can't do it. so don't worry about it. we will take it. we got it. and that in itself is the most polite racism you have ever seen and they can sit with a straight face and be like, we are trying to help you. because we know you can't pay your bills. because you need us. so don't worry about math, we will take those jobs. don't...

He is at the bottom of the charts in terms of what we're seeing in the polling. all right, thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. meanwhile, gun rights have become a contentious topic among americans. now two michigan men on different sides of the political aisle are trying to find common ground. cnn's erica hill has more. >> reporter: since opening freedom firearms in 2002, joe fulton has a front-row seat to the intersection of politics and guns. while business soared under president obama, it's the opposite with president trump. >> it's ridiculous how they fear monger to the american peo...

Wins. i think beto pace of passes tha. second question is is it about me or is it about them? i read the vanity fair story this morning, there was a lot about me and why i want to do this and not a lot about why i want to get -- what i'm going to do for the people. the last thing i'd say is, you know, politics is an often where you're defined by who you're up against. he was up against ted cruz, one of the most despised politicians on both sides of the aisle in the united states. he's now going to be compared with cory booker, kamala harris, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren. it's a harder thin...