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>> that's the thing. when you're talking about from a science standpoint, it's people who never had any grounding. all they cared about was access to power. jeff session clrs s, i would jue posters of donald trump's tweets of jeff sessions, we put them in every church and grocery store and say this man has noing iing at the gritty. he's not going to be able to stand up for donald trump because donald trump doesn't trust him. that's unfortunately what has happened to way too many republicans. the republicans used to be able to fight against the presidents. democrats are always willing to fight against their presidents. i don't know what donald trump has, but i know what a lot of republicans don't have ar and that's a spine. >> on some level, all these guys want to be donald trump. all the heinous things that we -- >> demented. >> that we look at and so loath -- >> i can correct you there? they hate him but they -- >> but they -- >> listen, you've got to trust me. behind the scenes --
in stone on him. but what does this do for his legacy? >> look, you heard the term rorschach test before. people are going to think about -- the ink blot test that psychologists use. people are going to think of james comey and frankly the president of the united states what they are going to think. there are people who believe james comey was acting in the interest of the united states. the president's behavior was simply remarkable, regardless of what you think of the president. it's remarkable behavior when even the white house counsel doesn't trust him. there are also people that think that jim comey should be in jail. no, i don't think anyone's view is changed right now, but again, this was a fair report. he's not charged with a crime. >> ann, he dealt with the fisa application, the other investigation to begin with william barr is looking into here. does this report portend anything for that? if this inspector general, every time he's taking a look he's found things that make him
heard the term rorschach test before and people are going to think about james -- the ink blot test that psychologists use. people are going to think of james comey and frankly the president of the united states what they are going to think. there are people who believe james comey was acting in the interest of the united states. because, this is the point i was making earlier, the president's behavior was simply remarkable. regardless of what you think of the president, it's remarkable behavior when even the white house counsel doesn't trust him. there are also people that think that jim comey should be in jail. no, i don't think anyone's view is changed right now, but again, this was a fair report. he's not charged with a crime. >> so, ann, shimon referred to the other inspector general's report, which is going to deal with the fisa applications specifically and then there is whole other investigation about the investigation that william barr is looking into here. does this report portend anything for that? if this inspector general, every time he's taking a look he's found things that make him uncomfortable at the least, upset at the most, does that mean the next ones are also going to be highly critical?
this. it just never happened in american history, period. >> so according to the newspaper, and i'm just quoting from the paper, saying pentagon and intelligence officials described broad hesitation to go into detail with mr. trump about operations with russia for concern over his reaction. but at the same time, according to this reporting, the president doesn't have to be briefed on this action. it was already approved by congress. >> it may have been, but i think "the new york times" is wrong. you always -- something this sensitive -- by the way, it should not have leaked out. but something this sensitive you've got to run past the president, especially in a time like this with tensions with russia. he doesn't read anyhow, but the fact they're putting programs like this in footnotes and refusing to give him details tells me that the intelligence community and the military simply doesn't trust him. >> do you see that potentially
federal workers can start receiving paychecks again. >> if there's any two people that are not in a motion to stay trust me to speaker pelosi and the president. neither one of them is trusting the other one. the best thing is to resolve that we can resolve. for speaker pelosi to say up in the government and then i'll negotiate no i don't trust you right now and she doesn't trust him. let's do what we can, get it in writing, get it passed and resolved. >> let's bring in associate editor in white house columnist for the hill. both sides continue their standoff. so what do you think it could take to try and rectify jim? >> it will take something enormous and something more than the offered the president has made this weekend. both sides are very dug in. this is already a polarized tissue. we certainly saw a softer tone for the president yesterday. but a softer going to be more
>> that is one of the reasons why senator mitch mcconnell did not use the nuclear option. you don't trust the president. even his own party doesn't trust him. so it will make it really difficu difficult moving into the new year. >> happy new year. good to see you. it's friday. i hope you get some rest and relief. that hasn't happened. >> we get that at the white house they thwhen they are all down. >> see you later. turns out the referee who ordered a black varsity wrestler to cut off his dreadlocks has been in trouble before. with all that usaa offers
rosenstein even said it in gest, does the president say that is a guy that doesn't have any back? >> in the president's mind, yes. but to his credit, he doesn't need grounds to fire him. as long as the republican is not against public policy. he couldn't do it for an illegal reason. but he can fire him because he doesn't trust him, doesn't believe him. that's a basis for firing. >> harris: so for the president's base, they like that renegade attitude of you know what? you do deserve to have the people around you especially the leaks, the atmosphere around this president. >> a lot of people that you know and like, you and i know and like, even some in this building, have been lobbying the president do not pull this trigger -- >> half of them do -- >> until after the mid-terms. this is to goad you to firing him. firing him will be a gift to the democrats. it will look like you're trying to obstruct bob mueller's
i know there's no tape of me saying it. >> i haven't said it and i know that to be true. it's not something you need an investigation or call your friends to make sure, to double check. so, i mean, some of this is disingenuous in the sense we know the president doesn't like people of color. his policies demonstrate that, his rhetoric demonstrates that. we've got the evidence on that in terms of making a reasonable calculation as to how he feels about those groups of people. on the other hand, though, it is important that somebody who was getting paid by the taxpayers who is speaking on behalf of the white house cannot guarantee that the person she's claiming represents all americans or wants to represent all americans has said something derogatory, if he said it, apologize. >> give her credit. at least it was a truthful answer. that's nice to hear from sarah sanders. >> that was my reaction as well is that she ultimately doesn't trust him. she doesn't believe him. >> i went back to --
he trusts putin, he doesn't trust him, russia did do it, they could have done it, would they have done it. >> as david points out for a long time there has been an understanding that the president not only knew, but he has been shown the in evidence great detail as the article points out. there has been an understanding that he is fully aware on this attack on our democracy. what we have seen over the last several says is what the intelligence committee understands, why the president refuses to stand up and speak out against vladimir putin. why is he doing this? what is really unfortunate about this is that it lends some legitimacy to the question of whether or not putin and the