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These two women for the election. in your opinion, does this conversation cloud something that you believe -- and you, i believe, were the first to flag this -- is a much bigger issue and that's russian interference in the elections? >> there's two parts to this that have really played out, which is not only were the russians trying to help trump win. trump was doing other things to try to make sure he could win. imagine after the access hollywood tape we have two revelations in a row about a former adult film star and a play boy play mate that are in extra marital affairs with now president t...

Could happen if the president doesn't win re-election. >> there's a very real prospect on the day donald trump leaves office, the justice department may indict him. he may be the first president to face the real prospect of jail time. >> obviously keying off the filings that the president directed the payments and therefore the southern district of new york may pursue criminal charges after he's no longer in office. that's where democrats are right now. they're in a similar place to sum it up that a lot of people are. they're trying to figure out where the ground is laid right now, next steps....

For something else. but that may change. and i think anyone who does not like the confrontational politics of nowadays, american history is in cycles. we go through these periods of enormous confrontation before the civil war, for instance. things change. and in this case, you know, the period that we're going through, if donald trump leaves the presidency, doesn't win re-election or even leaves the presidency before 2021, his name, among many people, is going to be an epitehet -- >> to an era? more than just a politician. it's -- i mean, this is -- >> trump, if he goes down, and this is -- we...

One thing the former presidents club knows thou do, win. win presidential elections which may explain why president obama is weighing into the 2020 pool of candidates. that's story is next. [ horn honking ] critics are raving, "green book is hugely entertaining." what experience do you have? [ grunting ] public relations. audiences are cheering and giving it an a+. i don't think i've ever met anyone with your appetite. [ laughing ] we were talking about the model t. now here we are

Has that more than anyone else. that doesn't mean he's going to win, but he brings an advantage to the table that we haven't seen yet, and the race hasn't even started, from a lot of the rest of the field. >> so, one of the things that a lot of people sort of diagnosed in the 2016 match-ups was the asymmetry of running against trump. first for the '16 republicans rn against him. jeb bush ran an ad that said he wasn't conservative. he's the least conservative person running. hillary clinton was a traditional candidate that tried to tell the truth as a candidate. trump lied, trump hit below the ...