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Know. this happens again every year, for example, with the flu. you have the best scientific information of what may be coming. and sometimes you get it at 80%. sometimes the virus is much smarter than us and it mutates to something that the vaccine doesn't work very well against. >> health advisers in israel say they have this data that shows a fourth vaccine dose provided people with more than three times the level of protection against serious illness and it also doubled the protection against infection. dr. fauci told me yesterday here in the u.s. we're still waiting for more data to deter...

Today you heard say sanction doesn't work. so is he right that sanctions don't work? obviously, they didn't work in 2014. those sanctions are by all accounts much weaker than those now being considered. do you think the sanctions they are talking about would work now? >> well, i think, you know, they are a key part of the deterrent package. the bietden administration i think is trying to make the point that putin faces incredibly clear. on the one hand, the biden administration offered a path to talk about things like arms control. conventional arms control. transparency measures, risk reducti...

Unfortunate because that's not the case. >> okay. so i wanted to ask you as well about the recent reports of myocarditis, that rare heart inflammation that was shown -- and in some cases, it's rare, i want to point out. but the cdc, i know they met yesterday. pfizer and moderna's vaccines were both linked to this risk. moderna's more so than pfizer's to some degree. what do you know about that risk in mieyocarditis in young peopl? >> well, the risk of myocarditis from a vaccine is rare at any age group but extraordinarily rare in the younger age group. we have mostly seen it in the adolescents...

Podcast that's disseminated. the they have. >> tucker: at those people are complaining about this information? all the misinformation in our society comes from the people in power. that is what gets us into wars under false pretenses. that is what gives us medicine that doesn't work. everything that hurts huge numbers of americans, it is misinformation. it comes from the people in charge. not from a podcast on spotify. the senior fellow at the hoover institute joins us to assess what we are watching. professor, they give so much for coming on. what is this? joe rogan all of the sudden needs to...

Leaders and leaders across the country and in localities and states to do everything they can to implement the safety measures we know work to keep our kids safe, and those include universal masking and testing and they include using the money we secured a year ago to invest in improving testing and ventilation. there's nothing more important than the safety of our children. we all should be coming together and uniting to take all of these measures to keep our kids safe. >> dr. murthy, can you give up as update on the possibility of vaccines for 3, 4 and 5 year olds. would it be one or a coupl...