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>> i don't know. we'll see. i mean we -- we are coordinating the six committees, including my committee, foreign affairs. we are coordinating things with each of the committees. we want to find out what went on. we want to find out if there are any other documents. and, again, if the white house is releasing this phone conversation claiming exoneration, my goodness, i mean it points all over the place. it's anything but exoneration. so what more phone calls are there? what more threats were made to foreign leaders? it really boggles the mind that the white house thinks that somehow or other th...

International community by signing and ratifying the u.n. convent on economic, social and cultural rights. we need to catch up to the rest of the world and then we need to lead the rest of the world not just on climate change but on social issues and on economic issues so that we can actually act like a humanity that is existing in the 21st century. >> give me a quick take on the obvious pushback, which won't just be process, you guys can't get anything done right now except you're saying it's theoretical, it's a plan for the future. the other one is, boy, you can't reach in my pockets fast en...

Again, if the white house is releasing this phone conversation claiming exoneration, my goodness, it points all over the place, it's anything but exoneration. so what more phone calls are there? what more threats were made to foreign leaders? it really boggles the mind that the white house thinks somehow or other this exonerates the president. you're the president of the united states and you try to enlist a foreign leader to go after a political vendetta of somebody that you see as a political enemy, well, that's using his power of his office for his own personal game. anybody knows that that...

Important to understand what we don't have. what you don't have is a quid pro quo. in other words, i'll do this, you do this. >> why do you need that? >> well, that's because the democrats that have been on your network and others have been saying that's what this is. but i think there's an important point here, chris. as a lawyer, you understand this. nancy pelosi went to the podium yesterday for this formal inquiry that she called a formal impeachment inquiry. now, substantively it was no different than anything it was two days before. but she said this before the transcript was even issued....

Been saying that's what this is. but i think there's an important point here, chris, as a lawyer you understand this, nancy pelosi went to the podium yesterday for this formal impeachment inquiry. substantively, it was no different than anything was two days before, but she said this before the transcript was finish you'd. let's be realistic and real honest. this is politics. this is not a bob mueller type of situation where you're looking a the various rules and regulations to see how they fit into a scenario. >> but that's what impeachment is. it's a vote. as president ford said, an impeacha...